Spoilers DS9: Ascendance by David R. George III Review Thread
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Wasn't Riker an "ambitious arse" when first we met him?
And what's wrong with ambition anyway?
I quite liked Stinsons back- story and TBH it's nice to see a character with a little grit (unlike TNG,where there is weapons grade blandness on display).
Also now I'm reviewing my mental image of Blackmer...more a Dean Winters type in my mind.
And what's wrong with ambition anyway?
I quite liked Stinsons back- story and TBH it's nice to see a character with a little grit (unlike TNG,where there is weapons grade blandness on display).
Also now I'm reviewing my mental image of Blackmer...more a Dean Winters type in my mind.
I've like Stinson since his introduction and his scenes with Sisko in Raise the Dawn were great. Pity he isn't on Sisko's Robinson crew.
Well, that kind of depends on how many people you screw over on your way up, whilst forgetting you might meet them again on the way down!
Character should make for a good mix with the others so it'll be interesting to see what they do with him.
I'm surprised this is scoring predominantly above average and outstanding - I found this book very, very average. The way the story unfolded was ok, but I just found the writing slow and ponderous. And most of the new characters are just dull.
Personally, i'd like some other writers to have a shot at DS9 now.
Personally, i'd like some other writers to have a shot at DS9 now.
I like the precedent of George taking on the main DS9 storyline but having other authors write stories like The Missing and Force and Motion.
I think that was more about "The Missing" and "Takedown" not referencing each other despite both being centered around relatively significant events that were supposed to have happened at around the same time as one another; I don't remember anyone mentioning any issues with "The Missing" and the general DS9 line.
Well, there was also the fact that Altek Dans isn't mentioned once in The Missing, at least from my recollection, despite his arrival being a pretty significant deal at the end of Revelations and Dust, and then Sacraments of Fire/Ascendance don't bring up the People of the Open Sky or the Athene Donald, anything of significance from there.
Like I said before, though, I really do want to see the quote unquote main storyline of DS9 be advanced by people beyond DRG. I just really miss the days when multiple authors got a shot at telling stories. I know the publishing model has changed since the early days of the post-WYLB DS9 books first started coming out, but still, that 'ongoing storyline with rotating authors' was really engaging, where if a certain author's style disagreed with you, you weren't expecting only them to continue the story of these characters, advance these plotlines. Right now, I kinda get the impression that DRG is the only one really getting the chance to really DO things with the DS9 setting.
Like I said before, though, I really do want to see the quote unquote main storyline of DS9 be advanced by people beyond DRG. I just really miss the days when multiple authors got a shot at telling stories. I know the publishing model has changed since the early days of the post-WYLB DS9 books first started coming out, but still, that 'ongoing storyline with rotating authors' was really engaging, where if a certain author's style disagreed with you, you weren't expecting only them to continue the story of these characters, advance these plotlines. Right now, I kinda get the impression that DRG is the only one really getting the chance to really DO things with the DS9 setting.
I guess I may sneakily want another Cardassia or Tzenkethi or Picard family-centred novel by Una McCormack. Or anything by her; I liked the Missing and was saddened that DRG kind of ignored it in his copious recaps 
But there is nothing by her on the far horizon - curse the demands of a UK university teaching job! 
Anyway, in the DS9 front, 2016 has:
2 DS9 in force in motion - this seems to take place during ascendance if Nog's allusion to things with the chief refers to it - and Rules of Accusation, which sounds great.
Prey - I hope it has some Martok and alludes back to Left Hand of Destiny and his much more recent cameos! But I didn't really enjoy JJM's first things, but am still interested in this, especially as a trilogy it has a certain sense of scale.
Finally, 2017 looks spartan at the moment - and Control might be cancelled! Although DRG has two books contracted.
But there is nothing by her on the far horizon - curse the demands of a UK university teaching job! Anyway, in the DS9 front, 2016 has:
2 DS9 in force in motion - this seems to take place during ascendance if Nog's allusion to things with the chief refers to it - and Rules of Accusation, which sounds great.
Prey - I hope it has some Martok and alludes back to Left Hand of Destiny and his much more recent cameos! But I didn't really enjoy JJM's first things, but am still interested in this, especially as a trilogy it has a certain sense of scale.
Finally, 2017 looks spartan at the moment - and Control might be cancelled! Although DRG has two books contracted.
Well that'd be an embuggerance!
I was thinking it odd that Starfleet don't call in Bashir or Dr. Mora to help Odo, but I guess Disavowed hasn't taken place by this time.
I hope Control isn't cancelled. If it is I hope DRG at least tells us who it would be
Ok i'm a broken record but if Control is not on the cards by Mack, perhaps my favourite S31 tale is definitely the Cold War spylit shenanigans of Hollow Men. Why not Una? Mind games are good, and really Control screams The Prisoner. Also Admiral Ross, whom she & Mack wrote so well in his interactions with 31! The ppl who know his treason are probably countable on one hand now. I think no one has written more about spycraft, subterfuge and political, cultural & ethical compromise in Treklit in recent years than her.
Plus in terms of recent Bashir interaction, the letter in Crimson Shadow is excellent:
Plus in terms of recent Bashir interaction, the letter in Crimson Shadow is excellent:
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I like how you think!
This is honestly the first I've heard about anything about Control being possibly cancelled. Is there a source for this?
It's not cancelled exactly, but David Mack mentioned not long ago that he was no longer contracted for it. I think it was swapped out for something else? Let me see if I can dig that post up.
So it's not so much cancelled as much as it's not guaranteed.
Edit: Here we go:
He did also post just a few months later that there might still be news about it, though. So it sounds like "long delayed but not forgotten" would be a better description of Control right now.
So it's not so much cancelled as much as it's not guaranteed.
Edit: Here we go:
He did also post just a few months later that there might still be news about it, though. So it sounds like "long delayed but not forgotten" would be a better description of Control right now.
I certainly hope it does get published. I don't think I could handle such a loss of Control.
