Dr Who finale theorizing - spoilers ho!

[Lonemagpie]

Putting the clues together sort of thing.

Speculation, but...

Amy/Amelia a fairytale girl.

The Pandorica, a fairytale

Cracks in reality.

The Doctor's image/likeness as an icon.

Not remembering The Stolen Earth

A duck pond with no ducks, it's just stated as a duck pond.

Rory's badge saying he's from 1990.

Dreams.

The Doctor drawn as a character in a child's game.

The lines in the Weeping Angel story about when ideas can think for themselves and dreams be real...

The "MYTH" brand computers and phones.

Know what the wife and I think?

We think the Big Bad is the Land Of Fiction. Or the master brain computer thereof. We think Leadworth is fictional, hence there was no need to have ducks in the duck pond because the statement that it's a duck pond is enough. We think Amy and Rory are fictional, though Amy has gained a measure of reality by leaving the Land and travelling. We think the interior of the Pandorica is intended to hook the Doctor up to be the living mind that sustains it, but he's been blending fact and fiction throughout the series- being part fictionalized himself (no doubt also as the trickster/warrior wotsit) as well as making Amy real. Rory can always come back because he never really lived. The monsters are gathering either because they're fictionalized representations of the things the Doctor has seen, included in the program as he is fictonalized, or because they want him made unreal. Or don't.

I guess we'll see over the next two weekends...

 

[ParticleMan]

I really thought we'd have seen more of a focus on the MYTH computers/phones through the season, but now I kind of wonder if Moffat might not be laying groundwork for NEXT season too...unless the "Land of Fiction" theory pans out...

I don't know what will come of it, but I'm getting more convinced that at least some part of Amy/Rory/Leadworth will prove to be some kind of fiction or illusion...

And what about Jeff? I thought that he'd be a little more important through the season as well...maybe Jeff's in the Pandorica? Maybe that was the only private place he could surf the net without the Doctor admonishing him...

 

[ParticleMan]

Oh, also, I wonder if the constant visual references to previous Doctors will factor in at the end...the montage in the first episode alone would mean nothing but a reference for the fans/touchpoint for new viewers, but all the other times? I just can't see it only being fan service over and over and over...

 

[Starkers]

It is going to be interesting to see what happens...

Frankly all I want is a finale that doesn't rely on flicking a few switches or turning on a giant vacuum cleaner...

 

[SeerSGB]

-- The key to fixing everything is the doctor going back, and meeting the waiting Amy and changing her life so that she never thought of as crazy and doesn't wait her whole life for him. (Is Karen Gillian confirmed for Season 6?).

 

[Lonemagpie]

(Is Karen Gillian confirmed for Season 6?).

Yes, she is - she says in today's Radio Times that she starts filming next month, for nine months.

 

[Chaos Descending]

(Is Karen Gillian confirmed for Season 6?).

Yes.

 

[Icemizer]

And the Doctor wakes up on Amys floor still handcuffed to the radiator having dreamed the entire season.

 

[Chaos Descending]

I really hope that Mr. Moffatt is a more intelligent and experienced television producer than to resort to possibly the LAMEST plot/story arc resolution device ever created, the "reset button".

 

[Stevil2001]

"Hey kids, this season's big bad is the Land of Fiction, which you all of course remember from 1968!"

It seems kinda unlikely.

 

[Pavonis]

Rory's badge saying he's from 1990.

I thought that was a flat out production error, not a clue of any kind. I'm sure that a producer somewhere admitted to that as a mistake. If I can find it, I'll edit...

 

[Chaos Descending]

"Hey kids, this season's big bad is the Land of Fiction, which you all of course remember from 1968!"

It seems kinda unlikely.

So it suffers from the same flaw that an original enemy or threat would face.

It seems to me that you are indicating that only recognizable enemies or threats from the old series are suitable as "Big Bad" style villains.

 

[Stevil2001]

Obviously we don't know how the Moff is gonna handle things, but all the "Big Bads" of the RTD years have been, if not recognizable, readily explicable:

1. The Daleks had appeared earlier in the season and we know they wiped out the Doctor's people.
2. The Daleks again! Also some pretty bad dudes you saw earlier in the season.
3. Even if you don't know who the Master is, the existence of a second Time Lord is a pretty big moment... especially if he's evil.
4. The Daleks again!! And their creator!
Specials. The Master again! Plus those Time Lords the Doctor's been on about for four years.

There'd be no kind of resonance if it turned out to be the Land of Fiction.

 

[ParticleMan]

Obviously we don't know how the Moff is gonna handle things, but all the "Big Bads" of the RTD years have been, if not recognizable, readily explicable:

1. The Daleks had appeared earlier in the season and we know they wiped out the Doctor's people.
2. The Daleks again! Also some pretty bad dudes you saw earlier in the season.
3. Even if you don't know who the Master is, the existence of a second Time Lord is a pretty big moment... especially if he's evil.
4. The Daleks again!! And their creator!
Specials. The Master again! Plus those Time Lords the Doctor's been on about for four years.

There'd be no kind of resonance if it turned out to be the Land of Fiction.

So if Moffat wants to avoid using the Daleks or Cybermen yet again, what obvious and resonant Big Bad would be the one to be revealed, I wonder?

 

[captcalhoun]

Sontarrans?

SLITHEEN!

 

[RoJoHen]

Obviously we don't know how the Moff is gonna handle things, but all the "Big Bads" of the RTD years have been, if not recognizable, readily explicable:

1. The Daleks had appeared earlier in the season and we know they wiped out the Doctor's people.
2. The Daleks again! Also some pretty bad dudes you saw earlier in the season.
3. Even if you don't know who the Master is, the existence of a second Time Lord is a pretty big moment... especially if he's evil.
4. The Daleks again!! And their creator!
Specials. The Master again! Plus those Time Lords the Doctor's been on about for four years.

There'd be no kind of resonance if it turned out to be the Land of Fiction.

So if Moffat wants to avoid using the Daleks or Cybermen yet again, what obvious and resonant Big Bad would be the one to be revealed, I wonder?

The Doctor himself! And his imagination!

I've only seen the last two episode of this season, but that seems like as good a guess as any.

 

[Bacl]

And the Doctor wakes up on Amys floor still handcuffed to the radiator having dreamed the entire season.

Also he's Bob Newhart.

 

[StCoop]

One thing that's clear from the newly leaked photos; the Doctor gets locked in the Pandorica in Roman Times and gets released from it by Amelia in 1996.

 

[danellis]

I thought I saw bits of cybermen in the trailer...?

dJE

 

[Bacl]

One thing that's clear from the newly leaked photos; the Doctor gets locked in the Pandorica in Roman Times and gets released from it by Amelia in 1996.

Or he's already in there in Roman times.

Or he gets locked in later.

Or there are two 11th Doctors. He opens it to find himself.

One might also be evil, or fake, or evil and fake.

If there are two, River might have to kill one of them.

If River kills one, it might be to save the other. Her jail sentence might actually be a sacrifice to save the Doctor...possibly from himself.