Dr Who 8x11- Dark Water

[Kemaiku]

TARDII

Oh, please be very careful with that word. Speaking it aloud can shatter a hole in time and space big enough for a galaxy to fall through. Possibly big enough for the interior of a TARDIS to fit in. The legend is that this is how the first one was created.

Is the hole the exact size of Belgium?

The last time I uttered that word I think I lost a week in the back and forth it caused among everyone here. Just say 'more than one tardis' otherwise things get nasty.

 

[Mytran]

Just for the record, the Latin plural ending "-i" is only used for 2nd group nouns ending in "-us".

TARDIS is either an acronym (and thus doesn't count) or if treated as a noun has the wrong word ending (and would better fit in Latins's Group 3 nouns which often use "-es" for plurals).

"TARDISES" seems perfectly fine to me.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

^ High Galliferyan is a whole 'nother thing

 

[Kemaiku]

Yes but their word for it is likely over 200 characters long and involve the dislocation of something.

 

[JoeZhang]

I took that to mean he doesn't deal with the Prydonains, just the lower chapters.

That would be a weird use of the word plebeian - moreover, the Time Lords are clearly meant to represent elements of the British class system as it existed at that time - hard to do with one of the elements missing!

 

[DWF]

I took that to mean he doesn't deal with the Prydonains, just the lower chapters.

That would be a weird use of the word plebeian - moreover, the Time Lords are clearly meant to represent elements of the British class system as it existed at that time - hard to do with one of the elements missing!

Really?

ple·be·ian (pl-b n) adj. 1. Of or relating to the common people of ancient Rome: a plebeian magistrate. 2. Of, belonging to, or characteristic of commoners.

The Time Lords as represented in The Deadly Assassin were seperated by Chapters. And it seemed to me that Spandrell dealt mainly with commoners.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I took the source of inspiration more classical pulp sci-fi stories which, in turn, were probably based on Ancient Rome (or, alternatively, based on Isaac Asimov, which was based on Rome). I don't think the basis was modern British classes, which, although less fluid than what happened in her colonies, was still fairly fluid.

 

[DWF]

I took the source of inspiration more classical pulp sci-fi stories which, in turn, were probably based on Ancient Rome (or, alternatively, based on Isaac Asimov, which was based on Rome). I don't think the basis was modern British classes, which, although less fluid than what happened in her colonies, was still fairly fluid.

Not really.

Here’s part 2 of the Robert Holmes interview. He talks about the Time Lords, about his interest in the fictitious version of Victorian London, and about his returns to the series in the 1980’s, which included ‘The Caves of Androzani’, ‘The Two Doctors’, and nearly ‘The Five Doctors':
“People ask whether I based the Time Lords on religious grounds, rather like the Vatican, but I saw it more as scholastic. I mean you have your colleges of learning with Deans and all that. I decided that from what we knew of the Time Lords, they were august and remote people who were only concerned with keeping the structure of time in place. But then I looked back and discovered that they ‘framed’ the Troughton Doctor and got him to do various things for them, and then hauled him up in front of them on trial – like the Americans persecuting McCarthy – so I decided there were two sides to them. They have one image that they project but they were something else to themselves, which every now and then produced renegages like the Meddling Monk, Omega and the Master.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Unless there's more to the quote than that, I'm not sure it's talking specifically about the structure of society rather than their personality.

 

[JoeZhang]

I took that to mean he doesn't deal with the Prydonains, just the lower chapters.

That would be a weird use of the word plebeian - moreover, the Time Lords are clearly meant to represent elements of the British class system as it existed at that time - hard to do with one of the elements missing!

Really?

ple·be·ian (pl-b n) adj. 1. Of or relating to the common people of ancient Rome: a plebeian magistrate. 2. Of, belonging to, or characteristic of commoners.

The Time Lords as represented in The Deadly Assassin were seperated by Chapters. And it seemed to me that Spandrell dealt mainly with commoners.

I think you have missed understood my point that the Timelords as a whole are meant to represent the aristocratic class and they cannot do that and function as the plebeian at the same time - that we don't actually see the great unwashed itself is not uncommon for shows of that time period.

 

[DWF]

That would be a weird use of the word plebeian - moreover, the Time Lords are clearly meant to represent elements of the British class system as it existed at that time - hard to do with one of the elements missing!

Really?

ple·be·ian (pl-b n) adj. 1. Of or relating to the common people of ancient Rome: a plebeian magistrate. 2. Of, belonging to, or characteristic of commoners.

The Time Lords as represented in The Deadly Assassin were seperated by Chapters. And it seemed to me that Spandrell dealt mainly with commoners.

I think you have missed understood my point that the Timelords as a whole are meant to represent the aristocratic class and they cannot do that and function as the plebeian at the same time - that we don't actually see the great unwashed itself is not uncommon for shows of that time period.

In the quote Goth does say the plebian classes. so obviously they exist among the Time Lords as a whole. And we have cast out Time Lords in The Invasion Of Time and some of the working class in Arc Of Infinity.