Star Wars doesn't belong to any of us.
Don't give money to the last Jedi remake projects
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I'm sure the cult will spin a billion dollar gross into a failure like they did with TLJ. They aren't smart people.
Perhaps. But judging from the box office, they apparently care more about Rey than Han Solo.
Times change . . . . as they should.
If you want to count box office alone you could also say the interest was in seeing Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill's final turn on their OT characters, whereas Solo didn't have Ford or Billy Dee Williams.
That's how box office analysis works. You can sort of rationalize anything you want out of the numbers.
That's something worth considering. A huge part of the hope for the last Jedi was seeing Hamill, Fisher, and Ford play their favorite characters again. That's literally the only reason I was excited...
Every single one of those people is gone... And with them a huge part of the nostalgia is gone as well. Disney planned to have Carrie Fisher carry the nostalgia load in the finale, but unfortunately she won't get that chance and now the question is whether the new characters alone can carry this franchise to billion dollar grosses.
The point in trying to make is that a failure to meet box office expectations is very possible for episode 9, but it won't necessarily be a statement on the quality of episode 8.
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In other news, Galaxy Quest is on IFC.
That's how you do a fan remake.
That's how you do a fan remake.
No can he, it world be simply shocking if he didn't. It won't be anything close to the same thing as having him be the hero of the movie though. To me, and probably a lot of the general public, the star wars saga is over. Episode 9 is just a spin off. I'm still going to watch, I dare even say I'm excited for it. The feelings I have for it though are almost nothing when compared to the excitement I felt for 7, and the hope I still had for 8.
It's still redoing/readapting a specific story the same studio/production companies (and even screenwriter) made for film not that long before which a lot of people thought would be senseless and fans thinking and hoping that they would was craziness.
Sure, new & different versions will be made but often they do alienate the old fans (and critics) and also fail to impress general viewers much (while if they do impress general viewers old fans tend to not mind the changes much).
I doubt a lot of the general public will think that.
If franchises are to continue they need new fans.
How can this argument be made? What can be said or concluded regarding the general public and their attitude towards Star Wars? If so, I could probably make the argument that ROTS is a spin off too. I certainly wasn't invested in going and seeing it.
Luke is in 7/16 incarnations of Star Wars. And in two of those, he respectively cameos as an infant and a mute. Not even half the franchise is ‘about’ him. Especially after certain prequels decided that the filmmakers both can and will recontextualise certain elements.
Besides, Kylo (and Leia for the moment) are still alive. There’s literally no definition of ‘Saga’ that Star Wars doesn’t meet.
Especially as:
(1) there’s no real rule that sagas have to be about families, just that there’s a string of events over a long period with some sort of connective tissue.
(2) There’s always been a good argument that R2 and Threepio were always more the ‘protagonists’ of the Saga movies, and they’re (sorta) still around.
(3) It’s canonical in Star Wars that no one ever really ‘dies.’ They become one with the Force, and the Force is with you, me blah blah blah. Even Force Ghosts and characterisation impacts aside, they kinda entrenched characters ongoing presence into the world building. Because why use a scalpel, when there’s a jackhammer available?
(2) There’s always been a good argument that R2 and Threepio were always more the ‘protagonists’ of the Saga movies, and they’re (sorta) still around.
(3) It’s canonical in Star Wars that no one ever really ‘dies.’ They become one with the Force, and the Force is with you, me blah blah blah. Even Force Ghosts and characterisation impacts aside, they kinda entrenched characters ongoing presence into the world building. Because why use a scalpel, when there’s a jackhammer available?
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I absolutely enjoy Rey and Finn's stories, as well as Luke's presentation.
Me too, but that's not the point.
...no Star Wars movie is the highest grossing of all time.
And neither Gone With the Wind, nor Avatar seem to hold any particularly nostalgic value for modern audience. GWTW is still mostly respected and has an audience of film buffs, but it’s gross seems to have been fairly ‘last century’ front heavy.
Which kinda makes me look askance at the ‘Popular Movie is only popular due to nostalgia, and not on it’s own merits.’ Because GWTW’s appeal to movie nerds, and eventual disconnect with modern general audiences, is explicitly caused by its ‘merits.’ Aka. The content.
Likewise, Avatar was an original concept that immediately became a tremendous popular success, and got a reasonable (if a bit luke-warm) critical reception. It may not have hit the mark with me personally, but it would just be sour grapes to deny that it obviously appealed to the audience on its own merits.
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Are you guys kidding me here? I thought any reasonable person would be able to realize that the massive success of force awakens was because of the original actors reprising their classic roles and the whole "now this is star wars, not that prequels crap" vibe. Why the heck else do you think that movie was that popular????
