Don't give money to the last Jedi remake projects

[Phoenix219]

The best way to cut the Phantom Menace is as a 10 minute epilogue / saber battle when they get young Anakin; then cut to some part of episode 2.

I believe I read once that the best way to watch the movies is 4, 5, flashback to 2, 3, then finish with 6... the ending of Phantom Menace fits in okay in that viewing order.

(If they had actually made Jar Jar an evil Sith Lord, the first movie would be eminantly rewatchable with that in mind...)

 

[fireproof78]

I believe I read once that the best way to watch the movies is 4, 5, flashback to 2, 3, then finish with 6... the ending of Phantom Menace fits in okay in that viewing order.

Sam Witwer make a similar argument for 4,5,3, and then 6. He said he experimented with that viewing with a friend it some of the revelations carried more weight for his friend.

 

[Steven P Bastien]

No love for "The Last of the Mohicans?"

lol,
Ok now we are talking. It is the older works that make modern "last of" titles so cliche. I hope you all realize that it is the title I hate and not always necessarily the work. A great work is a great work even if you call it "chopped liver". But if one is going to make a great work, why not put a little effort into a good title? Hence, I find that the general rule is cliche title equals cliche work but all rules have exceptions, as we are all taught.

 

[Samurai8472]

Yeah, but he's mocking it. You're actively telling people about the very thing you don't want them involved with.

Well. He loves chao's like this. He wants half of the fan base to love it and half to despise it.

 

[fireproof78]

lol,
Ok now we are talking. It is the older works that make modern "last of" titles so cliche. I hope you all realize that it is the title I hate and not always necessarily the work. A great work is a great work even if you call it "chopped liver". But if one is going to make a great work, why not put a little effort into a good title? Hence, I find that the general rule is cliche title equals cliche work but all rules have exceptions, as we are all taught.

Nah, I prefer simple titles and more complex tales.

 

[Steven P Bastien]

I like simple just fine. Shogun was a great title. The last emperor is not so good. "Das Boot" is a great title. "The Last U-boat" would suck.

 

[fireproof78]

I like simple just fine. Shogun was a great title. The last emperor is not so good. "Das Boot" is a great title. "The Last U-boat" would suck.

Not if the story is good. "Last U-Boat" sounds good to me.

This really depends on context.

 

[Steven P Bastien]

ok I guess my opinion stands alone. To me it just comes across as like a cliche and gives me a bad first impression.

 

[fireproof78]

ok I guess my opinion stands alone. To me it just comes across as like a cliche and gives me a bad first impression.

For me, I long gave up on titles meaning anything regarding art, or film. I am working very hard on just engaging the piece if it interests me, and a title is just not something I put much weight behind.

 

[Steven P Bastien]

I can understand that and don't totally disagree with it.

One day my opinion about titles was drastically changed when I saw a painting. It was a painting of a broken down old fashioned wheel Barrow in a golden field. There were browns and golds but no greens. I liked the painting but wasn't over the moon with it. Then I saw the title "Abandoned" and it hit me like an arrow through the heart. The wheel Barrow looked exactly like I felt when I was eight years old and my father abandoned me and my family. Sometimes the title makes a difference and sometimes it does not matter. Perhaps in movies it is less critical. But I really like to see a good title on a movie or art that I love.

Again, all rules have exceptions and I love Emily Dickinson's work without a title in sight.

 

[fireproof78]

I can understand that and don't totally disagree with it.

One day my opinion about titles was drastically changed when I saw a painting. It was a painting of a broken down old fashioned wheel Barrow in a golden field. There were browns and golds but no greens. I liked the painting but wasn't over the moon with it. Then I saw the title "Abandoned" and it hit me like an arrow through the heart. The wheel Barrow looked exactly like I felt when I was eight years old and my father abandoned me and my family. Sometimes the title makes a difference and sometimes it does not matter. Perhaps in movies it is less critical. But I really like to see a good title on a movie or art that I love.

Again, all rules have exceptions and I love Emily Dickinson's work without a title in sight.

I think that is a very touching story, but illustrates how context matters

 

[Steven P Bastien]

I think that is a very touching story, but illustrates how context matters

I agree that context matters, and I think it matters a lot.

 

[Qonundrum]

Yeah, but he's mocking it. You're actively telling people about the very thing you don't want them involved with.

Which probably means even more will flock to it?

 

[Jedi_Master]

I'm sad that this isn't real. I had pledged $2 billion.

What am I going to do with my money now?

 

[Steven P Bastien]

I'm sad that this isn't real. I had pledged $2 billion.

What am I going to do with my money now?

I can start a GoFundMe to edit all "Last of ..." titles of otherwise good movies. It's always good to solve two problems in a win-win fashion.

 

[Mudd]

 

[crookeddy]

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If there are no women, how can we see Luke's gfs...

 

[Greg Cox]

Nah, I prefer simple titles and more complex tales.

I don't know. Simple titles are not always the best. I'll take "The World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky" or "The City on the Edge of Forever" over something boring like "Unification" or "Cathexis."

In the case of STAR WARS, they're deliberately going for retro, pulp-flavored titles: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, RETURN OF THE JEDI, THE PHANTOM MENACE, THE LAST JEDI, etc. That's part of the appeal.

 

[DigificWriter]

I know there are those out there who find humor in the stupidity of this whole thing and in the responses from people like Rian Johnson, Frank Oz, and Seth Rogan, but the problem I see is that the fools behind this "campaign" don't see - or don't care about - the mockery and dismissiveness and actually think they can do what they're trying to find the funding to do, and people responding to them, even in jest, only emboldens them and is like giving drugs to an addict.

 

[EnsignRicky]

This isn't about raising money or even remaking anything. It's yet another group of fans expressing how profoundly shitty The Last Jedi was. The difference this time is that the blame is beginning to focus squarely where it belongs, on Rian Johnson. The only thing they're trying to raise is awareness. And it must be working, they have the guy very publicly nursing his nuts over it.

Right now Star Wars is the Titanic and Episode IX is the iceberg. Everything is riding on a movie that is a sequel to a film that a large enough percentage of the fan base is becoming frighteningly vocal about wishing never existed in the first place.

Some of you may dismiss these stories as just the farts of a small group of disconnected fan babies; I assure you, Disney does not.