Dollhouse 2x1 "Vows" Season 2 Debut *Spoilers HIGHLY likely*

[Captain Craig]

Synopsis: Picking up a few months after the first season finale, Echo, who now sporadically remembers past "imprints" due to Alpha's machinations, weds a wealthy and charismatic British businessman tied to one of Agent Ballard's open FBI cases. Dr. Saunders struggles with being an Active and makes Topher the target of her aggression, and Boyd mixes business with pleasure in a risky venture.
Meanwhile,Adelle makes Ballard an offer he can't refuse.
Credits
Writer: Joss Whedon
Director: Joss Whedon
Jamie Bamber....Martin Klar
Amy Acker....Dr.Saunders/Whiskey
Liza Lapira....Ivy
Alexis Denisoff....Senator Daniel Perrin
Zoran Radanovich....Hugo Taubman

Time to re-enter the Dollhouse. We had some good summer discussion in various threads about what we learned in Season One. Hope many of you are looking forward to watching it tonight or later via Tivo.

Discuss-Grade-Commentary


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[BenRoethig]

Starbuck's gonna be pissed.

 

[Captain Craig]

T-minus 45 minutes. Headed to a friends house to view the episode together. I've been looking forward to this episode since Epitaph One!

 

[RoJoHen]

Crap. I wasn't planning on being home tonight, but now that I am, I might just have to watch this.

But I need dinner!

Hmm...Burger King or pizza?

 

[Samurai8472]

Bamber hitting Tahmot. I'm sure there were a few laughs.

 

[DarthPipes]

I gave it an Above Average. A good episode but the real star was Amy Acker. She was tremendous tonight, particularly in her scene with Boyd. She looked smokin tonight too. I think she isn't going to be on that much this season and that's a shame.

Nice to see Jaime Bamber again and I was shocked to hear him speak with a British accent until I remembered he was in fact British. He actually sounds a lot like Baltar. Cool seeing him interact with Tahmot again, who had a good storyline tonight as well.

One other thing...Olivia Williams really shouldn't have gotten that haircut.

 

[RoJoHen]

One other thing...Olivia Williams really shouldn't have gotten that haircut.

I agree. She was hot before. Now? Meh.


It was a decent episode. Nothing terribly special, but not bad. It's weird going from watching the whole first season on DVD to watching this episode tonight. It reminded me how much I hate commercials. They completely ruin the flow.

 

[David cgc]

One other thing...Olivia Williams really shouldn't have gotten that haircut.

I'd just watched E1 right before (the timing of the Netflix worked out well), and the first thing I thought was that that's going to play merry hell with the continuity. Of course, Babylon 5 ran into the same problem in the flashforward War Without End, with Sheridan's beard and Vir's weight (and, for that matter, the flash forward in Babylon Squared, with Garibaldi's hair). Just an occupational hazard of playing with time in a serial drama, I guess. I don't watch Lost, but I'd bet they've got a billion of those flubs with all the back-and-forth they do.

 

[DarthPipes]

One other thing...Olivia Williams really shouldn't have gotten that haircut.

I agree. She was hot before. Now? Meh.


It was a decent episode. Nothing terribly special, but not bad. It's weird going from watching the whole first season on DVD to watching this episode tonight. It reminded me how much I hate commercials. They completely ruin the flow.

She's still got a smoking body. But short hair on a woman rarely works.

I caught up with the series too on DVD and man, those commercials were too fucking long.

 

[Forbin]

Ack! Apollo with an English accent and Wesley with an American one! My head almost essploded!

 

[Captain Craig]

I went with ABOVE AVERAGE with a few moments of excellent just not enough to make the entire episode rate that way.

Amy Acker got the best material tonight with her scenes both with Boyd & Topher. Felt the jumping right in with Echo as an undercover agent with Ballard and a throwaway line to indicate this arrangement had been going awhile was jarring.

Earlier, and I may be wrong, Topher talked of erasing the damage done by Alpha. I got the impression this was picking up just a few days after, which made the haircut seem odd. What did I miss indicating a longer time period had transpired since ep.12?

Sierra got token time, contract obligation apparently.
Victor's wasn't much more than that but it did at least directly tie into prior events. Speaking of Vic, thought the lingering facial grasp moment by Adelle was a good toss back reference to "Ms.Lonely Hearts".

The lead in show Brothers is a horrible companion, HORRIBLE! Its a bad UPN cast off show for crying out loud. Very little cross over audience appeal. Fox can't actually think this is a good pairing. I know await the Nielsons thread.

 

[Trent Roman]

Ack! Apollo with an English accent and Wesley with an American one! My head almost essploded!

Hell, I didn't even notice it was Wesley until you mentioned it. Oh well, I'm sure there's going to be more--it was obviously a set-up for future episodes.

Whiskey/Saunders was the star of this show, and I particularly enjoyed the love/hate encounter with Topher. Echo's plotline was less engaging, but got a lot more interesting there towards the end. That was practically the Gettysburg Address for an active; and I'm interested to see where having these personalities 'on call' will lead us.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

For I show I stopped watching at episode 3, that was decent.

Apollo marrying Faith was like every gay-bisexual-hetrosexual Buffy/NuBSG's wet dream!

How does Tamoah know that what Echo told him at the end wasn't just a program to get him to be her handler?

EVERYONE'S A CYLON...er...DOLL.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

How does Tamoah know that what Echo told him at the end wasn't just a program to get him to be her handler?

Questions like that are, I think, a lot of the point of the series.

 

[ManOnTheWave]

Above average. It didn't knock my socks off, and there are a whole lot of characters that barely got any screen time, but I'm glad to have it back.

 

[Skywalker]

Ack! Apollo with an English accent and Wesley with an American one! My head almost essploded!

That was the first time I'd ever heard Alexis Denisof speak with an American accent, so it was pretty jarring.

 

[RoJoHen]

Ack! Apollo with an English accent and Wesley with an American one! My head almost essploded!

That was the first time I'd ever heard Alexis Denisof speak with an American accent, so it was pretty jarring.

He had one on "How I Met Your Mother" for his few guest appearances.

I think the British accent sounds a lot better!

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

so far so good, a little bit more of the same. The cinematography seemed a little different as well. Gonna miss Amy Acker on this show, hope this isnt her sendoff before she goes off to do Happy Town.

 

[Mr Light]

I found this episode to be as middling as most of the first season. I still can't believe this is written by Joss Whedon. I also found the near complete lack of a plot/action an odd choice for a season premiere.

 

[firehawk12]

So... I still don't get what this means for that DVD episode. That's still canon?