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Dollhouse 1x05 "True Believer" - Discuss/Grade

Grade "True Believer"

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From Fox:

Echo infiltrates a dangerous cult in order to save a woman who's being held against her will, but the mission may be complicated by the imprint given her: that of a visually impaired woman.
 
"What, did she escape from a cult?"

"No. No, she didn't escape from anything."

I'll watch this thing til the end just for the dialogue. :lol:
 
wow. befor I even saw that this story was abotu a visually impaired woman, I was going to announce a tiny error on my part because my glasses are a little smudged... I thought that this episode was called "True Beaver".

Besides it's gaudy to name anything thing even accidentally that this girl is in as "tru(e)" anything since because of that show she used to be in because it's one of the best examples of a poorly maintained sense of humour.
 
Becoming a different person every week is good training for any actor/ actress. I'm reminded of Quantum leap
 
So far this has been slightly better than all the others, and the dialogue between Echo and her Handler in the car at the beginning was actualy good.

Duschku was doing better in the acting department, but in the last 20 minutes she reverted back from the character, to just being Dushku playing someone.

Overall I felt this episode was much better and not so clunky and poorly written than the episode thus far. Everything seemed to improve, except -- again -- the scoring (a new composer is strongely needed; can't say that enough).

But, having said all that, the show was still just "Average", being nothing more special then a regular fairly okay show, and certainly NOT worthy of any higher rating.

Neek weeks episode marks what someone said Dushky said in an interview: the first episode not fucked with by FOX, so I have higher hopes for the series from that one on, but it's not possible to forgive the poor foundation from which the series was build upon because of FOX. It seems to me they killed the show before it even got to air.
 
Keeps getting better and better. Kinda beat us to death with the obvious comparison to the ill-fated Branch Davidian cult led by David Koresh, but otherwise a lot of fun. I just wish the episode that "changes everything" could wait until two weeks from now, as next Friday night it will conflict with the 2-hour series finale of Battlestar Galactica. Will have to record next week's show, I guess.
 
Having completly forgotten the show for RL tonte, I am going to watdh just based on the thread. I have liked the concept since day one. and Dukshu is always going to have a soft spot in my heart for appearing with Jay and Silent Bob as a badass jewell thief.
 
The show is improving. For me this was the best installment thus far, so I gave it an "above average". To be fair though, that partly based on a comparison with the previous episodes, not with other tv shows.

So was this guy who came into the burning barn to kill Jonas (or what was his name?) Alpha? Why did he look so familiar? Have we seen him before? Was he in the second episode with the hunting 'game'?


Duschku was doing better in the acting department, but in the last 20 minutes she reverted back from the character, to just being Dushku playing someone.

I was thinking how to phrase my feelings about Dushku in this episode, but couldn't find the right words. You found them for me, thanks! I completely agree with what you said there.
 
This was definitely better. But I hate that Amy Acker, Reed Diamond, Harry Lennox, and the Doll House set all get so much less screen time than I'd prefer. I think I'd like it better if the weekly doll plot was on the periphery, and the other plot lines took precedence.
 
So was this guy who came into the burning barn to kill Jonas (or what was his name?) Alpha? Why did he look so familiar? Have we seen him before? Was he in the second episode with the hunting 'game'?
That was Laurence Dominic, Dollhouse's head of security. He's concerned that Echo might become the next Alpha, so he tried to off her. Now, why he didn't just shoot her and make it look like Jonas had killed her is beyond me, but at least she recognized him at the end of the episode.

I enjoyed the episode for the most part. The "man reaction" stuff was the first time this actually clicked as a Joss Whedon show for me (and thus naturally the episode was written by someone other than Whedon). It was nice to see the Ballard plot picking up, and his attempted flirting was rather entertaining as well.

Duschku was doing better in the acting department, but in the last 20 minutes she reverted back from the character, to just being Dushku playing someone.
Amen. It was almost ridiculous how the character suddenly devolved into the usual Dushku bad ass. Not just from an acting stand point, but it didn't make sense for the character she was playing either. I'm supposed to believe this blind chick would go from seeing the guy as a prophet to what he really is just because he slapped her and accused her of being a spy? Fine, I can buy that. But the extra leap to believing that she would hit the guy, and then start using cuss words, was IMO too much.
 
So was this guy who came into the burning barn to kill Jonas (or what was his name?) Alpha? Why did he look so familiar? Have we seen him before? Was he in the second episode with the hunting 'game'?
That was Laurence Dominic, Dollhouse's head of security. He's concerned that Echo might become the next Alpha, so he tried to off her. Now, why he didn't just shoot her and make it look like Jonas had killed her is beyond me, but at least she recognized him at the end of the episode.

Really? I thought that was the case at some point, but then thought that he looked completely different.

Seriously, I don't know what it is with this series, but a lot of scenes just don't seem to click with anything in my brain. Sometimes I just don't seem to register what is happening. Strange indeed...
 
Ugh. I don't think I've ever seen a single tv episode about a religious cult that wasn't terrible. And she's blind, too? Double jeopardy! Another bad episode. The erection subplot was amusing.
 
Some are blaming Eliza's acting for a change in character that was actually the result of bad writing. Nice.

Loved the preview for next week. I'm excited to see where things go from here now that we're past the infamous first six.
 
Seriously, I don't know what it is with this series, but a lot of scenes just don't seem to click with anything in my brain. Sometimes I just don't seem to register what is happening. Strange indeed...

FOX is secretly wiping your brain during the commercial breaks.:p

I thought this was the best episode yet. (Granted, I missed the previous 2 weeks.) "Man reaction" was the most Joss Whedon-y this show has been yet. I liked how they were able to do an episode where the bad guys were a cult and yet the episode didn't smell at all of an anti-Christian agenda. I loved that line, "I don't think God gave me my sight back just to watch." This was also one of the first episodes where a "Doll" was clearly the best option for the mission rather than just an overhyped waste of money.
 
Echo has been aware of Dominic's hostility, on some level, since the "Most Dangerous Game" pastiche - she reacted to his taunting at the end of that episode.

I'll be out next Friday and can only tape one show, so I'll tape this one and pick up nuBSG on the midnight re-run.
 
So was this guy who came into the burning barn to kill Jonas (or what was his name?) Alpha? Why did he look so familiar? Have we seen him before? Was he in the second episode with the hunting 'game'?
That was Laurence Dominic, Dollhouse's head of security. He's concerned that Echo might become the next Alpha, so he tried to off her. Now, why he didn't just shoot her and make it look like Jonas had killed her is beyond me, but at least she recognized him at the end of the episode.

Really? I thought that was the case at some point, but then thought that he looked completely different.

Later in the episode the boss mentioned him taking the private jet down to Arizona, and I think he mentioned he wanted to keep an eye on Echo.
 
That was Laurence Dominic, Dollhouse's head of security. He's concerned that Echo might become the next Alpha, so he tried to off her. Now, why he didn't just shoot her and make it look like Jonas had killed her is beyond me, but at least she recognized him at the end of the episode.

Really? I thought that was the case at some point, but then thought that he looked completely different.

Later in the episode the boss mentioned him taking the private jet down to Arizona, and I think he mentioned he wanted to keep an eye on Echo.

I do remember that. That's the point when I started thinking "was this guy Dominic?... nah... he didn't look like him at all." :lol:
 
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