Or is it all synthale/synthesized?
Does Quarks serve real booze?
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It's the real stuff. Quark got shipments of Cardassian Kanar in from time to time. O'Brien found a bottle of "The good stuff" at the bar one time. The Starfleet officers would order synthale from time to time. But people did wind up drunk at Quarks, the Klingon that attacked Quark and fell on his own dagger to name one.
One wonders what defines "real booze". We don't know whether synthale features ethanol or not, or whether the "synth-" in the name suggests some sort of artificiality or not...
...Nor do we know whether there's ethanol in kanar or warnog, or possibly some other intoxicant altogether. Although I'd suspect most of the drinks indeed are alcohol-based, at least the ones with "wine" or "ale" or "whisky" in their name.
Timo Saloniemi
...Nor do we know whether there's ethanol in kanar or warnog, or possibly some other intoxicant altogether. Although I'd suspect most of the drinks indeed are alcohol-based, at least the ones with "wine" or "ale" or "whisky" in their name.
Timo Saloniemi
I'm sure he does, but I do know that "never trust syntahol from a religious people."
The day Quark served only syntahol would be the Day Morn din't come sit on his chair.
I seem to recall in a 1st or 2nd season TNG episode it being noted that although synthehol apparently tasted great, it existed because it wasn't intoxicating and therefore wouldn't be an issue for on duty personnel who needed a break.
Needless to say Quark served both.
Needless to say Quark served both.
Exactly... I have no doubt that 'fleet officers would tend to order more synthahol to prevent being drunk... but if real customers showed up and ordered a drink and got synthahol, I'm sure they would have broken some of Quarks bones!
That's what soda is for. No, synthehol is intoxicating, but you can shrug off its effects with an effort of will. That's what makes it different.
I disagree since Quark had Starfleet people in his bar and since synthehol can be shrugged off whilst alcohol cannot and he would cater to everyone to keep the Starfleet types sweet.
From startrek.com:
synthehol
Episode: TNG 178 - Family
Generic name for all types of artificial achoholic beverages whose intoxication effect is all illusion and not chemical. Synthale is the synthetic version of ale or beer, for example, commonly programmed into Starfleet crew replicators as an alternative to the long-lasting detrimental effects of natural overimbibing. The pleasurable stimulus can be shrugged off at any time, but any potency of liquor is available.
Robert Picard groused that his brother's apparent loss of palate came from drinking too much artificial synthehol, but Picard said that it only heightened his appreciation for the real thing.
Who says "Synthale" is non-alcoholic? It's probably just the local beer recipe made in the replicator.
Synthale for Starfleet squares. Real booze for everyone else.
Sorry, I though you were supplying that as evidence that Quark didn't sell it!
Just to make sure we can distinguish fact from speculation, the only data we have on the nature of synthehol comes from, well, Data, in "Relics":
As Scotty can testify, the simulation of taste or smell is not perfect in case of whisky at least. But what the "easily dismissed" means is left for the audience to figure out. It may be that one can easily shake off the intoxication by concentrating hard, by slapping one's face, or by taking a cold shower or perhaps a dedicated anti-synthehol pill. Or then one cannot, but the intoxication is far milder to begin with than in the similar-tasting, ethanol-based product.
Timo Saloniemi
As Scotty can testify, the simulation of taste or smell is not perfect in case of whisky at least. But what the "easily dismissed" means is left for the audience to figure out. It may be that one can easily shake off the intoxication by concentrating hard, by slapping one's face, or by taking a cold shower or perhaps a dedicated anti-synthehol pill. Or then one cannot, but the intoxication is far milder to begin with than in the similar-tasting, ethanol-based product.
Timo Saloniemi
Very true... so that is either sloppy writing by the Voyager people OR it could be that Synthahol has a very short life in our blood and doesn't have the same negative effects (bye bye hangovers)
If you're referring to the time she told people, of she and the Doctor, "We are as one, we are as one", I believe they were drinking real champagne to celebrate the quantum slipstream drive. I could be mistaken though.
Wasn't that meant to be something to do with her Borg implants interacting with it, and the human characters were surprised?
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