Have either of those projects even begun pre-production? CBS could very easily just change their minds about producing them.
Does Prodigy's semi cancellation make Legacy more likely?
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Have either of those projects even begun pre-production? CBS could very easily just change their minds about producing them.
With the writers and upcomming actors strike occuring, nothing is getting done.
Why Magnum PI was canceled, don't know when the strike will be over so there's no firm date to premiere, so they couldn't green light a maybe, so they were let go.
Because of Prodigy's Cancellation, I'm not excited for Legacy. Hell, I'm not even excited for this upcoming episode of SNW this week. I'll watch it, but I'm just upset things happened this way.
I know. If it happens I will probably get excited for it but right now it’s just an idea in a very turbulent streaming landscape. Who knows what will happen in a year or even 6 months.
Actually no, Star Trek isn't the Crown Jewel at the moment. Yellowstone and it's various spin-offs are.
The Star Trek franchise is still a winner for Paramount, and I believe they will continue to support and expand it; but no it's not their top performer at the moment.
No, the cancelation of Prodigy doesn't bode well for any streaming series on P+, Trek or otherwise. And cutting a less expensive show to make room for a more expensive show (e.g., Legacy) doesn't make financial sense.
These cutbacks are across all streamers. If anything, the news makes me worried about how many SNW seasons we'll get. In another thread we were guessing. I was thinking 4 or 5 and most people said 5. Now I might be leaning more towards 4 seasons (total).
Money talks. Unless they start seeing big returns on the money they spent already, expect even less Trek going forward. Perhaps more streaming movies instead of ongoing series, as we're seeing with S31.
P+'s survival in particular looks tenuous given their recent financial status. I am not sure how long they will be around to be honest. So even P+'s current future Trek plans (Academy, S31 movie, and future SNW seasons) might all be moot.
These cutbacks are across all streamers. If anything, the news makes me worried about how many SNW seasons we'll get. In another thread we were guessing. I was thinking 4 or 5 and most people said 5. Now I might be leaning more towards 4 seasons (total).
Money talks. Unless they start seeing big returns on the money they spent already, expect even less Trek going forward. Perhaps more streaming movies instead of ongoing series, as we're seeing with S31.
P+'s survival in particular looks tenuous given their recent financial status. I am not sure how long they will be around to be honest. So even P+'s current future Trek plans (Academy, S31 movie, and future SNW seasons) might all be moot.
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Cancellation I can understand, if it was underperforming. It sucks, but at least show season 2. It's the deletion of Pro from existence that upsets me.
I think the two have nothing to do with each other. I think Paramount+ found out that Prodigy had a lot more of us watching than their actual target demographic, so they pulled the plug. "That didn't work out the way we planned!"
Cancelling is one thing. But taking the show off Paramount+ and not even airing the second season unless they find a "new home" for it seems mean-spirited and like they're trying to rub salt in a wound. They've never done a Trek series that dirty before.
Cancelling is one thing. But taking the show off Paramount+ and not even airing the second season unless they find a "new home" for it seems mean-spirited and like they're trying to rub salt in a wound. They've never done a Trek series that dirty before.
It's just one of multiple Paramount+ series they've done the same thing to -- four shows in the first batch, with more removals on the way. It's not targeted at Prodigy or Trek specifically; the show is a casualty of larger factors that are more about the poor health of the streaming industry overall and the bad judgment of executives who are only concerned with their shareholders and couldn't care less about their viewers.
This. They're trying to sell it to another streamer. Failing that, they'll use it as a tax write off.
Fuck Legacy.
That was... charming.
TOS was canceled after 79 episodes, but look what it gave birth to. Prodigy can still do its thing, but at a fraction of the cost.
What's stupid is that it still can be the very port of entry its creators sought to make. If forty episodes of Prodigy is all we get, it's still more than enough to interest young fans in the franchise, a Trek show you can watch curled up together on the couch with your kid. And when there's no more Prodigy for your kid to watch, there's TAS for cartoons, VOY for Janeway, and hundreds of other episodes.
TOS was canceled after 79 episodes, but look what it gave birth to. Prodigy can still do its thing, but at a fraction of the cost.
I don’t see how they’re related at all.
Legacy is the desired successor of PIC, which is over. Much like how Starfleet Academy is the successor of DIS, which ends next year.
The only thing the cancellation of PRO does is make it difficult for the 4 season vision of the show to come to fruition. It may or may not end with only 2 seasons.
Legacy is the desired successor of PIC, which is over. Much like how Starfleet Academy is the successor of DIS, which ends next year.
The only thing the cancellation of PRO does is make it difficult for the 4 season vision of the show to come to fruition. It may or may not end with only 2 seasons.
Which leaves SNW (Paramount+'s only viable Trek show) and LDS (a much cheaper-to-produce 30 minute cartoon show.) Despite P+'s announcement of a SFA show and Section 31 TV movie in 2024, we have no idea if those projects are even going to see the light of day. Not to mention Legacy, which people don't seem to grasp as being a non-thing. How many announcements has Paramount made about theatrical Trek films that have gone nowhere?
The Legacy thing is fascinating to me. Fans are behaving as if it’s actually a bona fide thing, right down to its name. There has been zero indication that Legacy is on the cards or ever will be. I think what Matalas did was very cheekily create a back door pilot when creating P3. I’d be curious to know if this has been discussed with his superiors. Great way to potentially line up some future work for yourself. I don’t really blame him.
There’s definitely clamour for a 25th century series but I wasn’t exactly bowled over by the “preview” we received at the end of the series. I like Seven and tolerate Raffi, but have no real desire to see Jack or LaForge’s daughters again. Plus, I’m not really sure what Legacy would actually bring: just another episodic Trek when we already have SNW set a century earlier? The potential for guest stars from TNG and VOY (DS9 routinely gets the shaft) might be tantalising to fans but is not enough to sustain a series. If I were the big cheese at Paramount I’d be asking: what sets this potential show apart? Even if it pleases certain fans what will it do to bring in new viewers and expand the franchise? I’d be concerned that if Matalas ran this show it would just lose itself in an overdose of nostalgia and fanwank continuity that’d do little to draw in new fans.
I couldn't care less about Jack, but I'd love to see a series centered on Seven and Raffi, as long as they actually focus on them being a couple instead of continuing to leave it swept under the rug like PIC season 3 did. And I'd like Sydney La Forge to get the chance to be developed better, as opposed to getting marginalized as a damsel in distress for the square-jawed white man to rescue.
Why are we only allowed to have one episodic series? Not to mention that we already have more than one; Lower Decks is also episodic. "Episodic" isn't what a show is about, it's just an option for presenting it. TNG, DS9, VGR, and most of ENT were episodic, and they were obviously not the same as each other.
That's also my concern, that it would be just more of the same. But sometimes creators like to challenge themselves by trying different things, and PIC S3 was nostalgia-focused for a specific reason, because it was the end of PIC and the last chance to do a full TNG reunion. So if, hypothetically, there were to be another Matalas-led series, it's conceivable that it would take a more original tack. Maybe that's not probable, especially with a name like Legacy, but I try to hope for the best.
One key factor to consider is that when discussing what he'd liked to do with a potential Legacy series, Matalas began listing off various characters, aliens and storylines from the 24th century shows he'd like to revisit, which would seem to indicate more nostalgia and fanwank is what he's interested in doing. Combine that with the fact that Paramount is obviously taking notice of how popular the nostalgia driven third season of Picard and would have a desire to replicate that, and, well...
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