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Does it matter if other species are stronger than humans?

I'm just picturing a human and a cheetah at the starting line, waiting for the pistol to fire. I wonder how it's gonna turn out? :shrug:
 
I'm sure someone can train a dog to beat a human in a marathon.
No, dogs have no calf muscles to speak of and would have to slow to a walk after a few miles. It's the same lack of calf muscles that means a Human can't run as fast as a horse, but we can out distance one over the course of a day.

I'm just picturing a human and a cheetah at the starting line, waiting for the pistol to fire. I wonder how it's gonna turn out? :shrug:
With the human in the cheetah's belly.
Unlikely, an adult cheetah is typically only the size of a small man, and because they used their claws for traction as they run, their claws aren't sharp at all.

In terms of a race, a cheetah can only run about four or five hundred yards, then it has to stop and rest.

:)
 
Yeah, but a cheetah can clock in at 110 kph / about 65 mph. And wolves can maintain a speed of about half that for 20 minutes, even if a wolf pack (including juveniles) "only" averages about 25 km / 15 miles per day.

And if a cheetah got its jaws around your neck, you'd be unlikely to survive.
 
Yeah, but a cheetah can clock in at 110 kph / about 65 mph. And wolves can maintain a speed of about half that for 20 minutes, even if a wolf pack (including juveniles) "only" averages about 25 km / 15 miles per day.
But in terms of an animal competing with a Human in a marathon (over 26 miles) neither a dog nor a cheetah could.

And if a cheetah got its jaws around your neck, you'd be unlikely to survive.
An adult Human in average shape could likely kill a cheetah with their bare hands. In order to run as fast as they do, cheetahs have a light skeletal structure.

Just beat it to death.

:)
 
I don't think it truly matters at all, because ultimately technology has a means of equaling things out, IMO (do you really need to be super strong when you can move things around with a transporter or an antigrav?). Even the physically superior Khan can be brought low by a mere Human with the right tool (either with a spanner or by blackmail).


In my opinion it does not matter.
QFT. Does it matter in the real world that some men can be 2-3+ times as strong as other men. Or even stronger than women for that matter? Or that some women can be 2-3 times stronger than some men?

The answer is no.
 
I'm sure someone can train a dog to beat a human in a marathon.
No, dogs have no calf muscles to speak of and would have to slow to a walk after a few miles. It's the same lack of calf muscles that means a Human can't run as fast as a horse, but we can out distance one over the course of a day.

I'm just picturing a human and a cheetah at the starting line, waiting for the pistol to fire. I wonder how it's gonna turn out? :shrug:
With the human in the cheetah's belly.
Unlikely, an adult cheetah is typically only the size of a small man, and because they used their claws for traction as they run, their claws aren't sharp at all.

In terms of a race, a cheetah can only run about four or five hundred yards, then it has to stop and rest.

:)

The reason humans are better than the cheetah really comes down to our ability to marathon in regards to hunting; If the cheetah does not chase down the gazelle during it's sprint, it starves. The human can keep going (at a much slower pace of course) until the gazelle has to stop and rest and the human stabs it in the neck.
 
Oh. You mean stronger as in actually physically stronger. In which case I agree with C.E. Evans, and as you already pointed out, we're not even the strongest on our own planet, so why would it matter if that is extended to the galaxy at large?

I thought from just the thread title that you might be asking whether it matters if humans are the predominate species of the Federation or not. THAT would make a pretty big difference in the way stories play out.

No, it's just many fans ask why Vulcans are stronger, or why Klingons have redundant organs, and as I stated I don't think it matters. They're not Earth-native species, so I don't see what else to expect.;)
 
Yeah, but a cheetah can clock in at 110 kph / about 65 mph. And wolves can maintain a speed of about half that for 20 minutes, even if a wolf pack (including juveniles) "only" averages about 25 km / 15 miles per day.
But in terms of an animal competing with a Human in a marathon (over 26 miles) neither a dog nor a cheetah could.

And if a cheetah got its jaws around your neck, you'd be unlikely to survive.
An adult Human in average shape could likely kill a cheetah with their bare hands. In order to run as fast as they do, cheetahs have a light skeletal structure.

Just beat it to death.

:)

Better have on some riot gear so it's claws don't disembowel you.
 
Oh. You mean stronger as in actually physically stronger. In which case I agree with C.E. Evans, and as you already pointed out, we're not even the strongest on our own planet, so why would it matter if that is extended to the galaxy at large?

I thought from just the thread title that you might be asking whether it matters if humans are the predominate species of the Federation or not. THAT would make a pretty big difference in the way stories play out.

No, it's just many fans ask why Vulcans are stronger, or why Klingons have redundant organs, and as I stated I don't think it matters. They're not Earth-native species, so I don't see what else to expect.;)
Which fans asked these questions?
:confused:

It seems that everyone simply accepts that they are aliens and don't ask why aren't they all just like Humans.
 
It doesn't matter if other species are smarter or stronger than humans. We teach the universe how to kiss. Trumps smart AND strength! :lol:
 
I'll weigh in. Any description of a species that has relations to the Terrans is helpful in order to fill-in-the-blanks for that other species. It illustrates the things we have in common and how evolution diverged on that planet. It in no way implies superiority as most species will develop some technological way to enhance their strength and not rely upon natural strength alone to do work.

As a modder of strategic war games, then knowing that the Vulcans are three times stronger or more agile than humans, or that another species has redundant organs, can result in adjusting parameters for soldiering. Then when the computer program makes calculations of the effectiveness of combat, then it plays a role in the outcome. Their chances of success might be higher due to those attributes. It might not perfectly assure success as hand-to-hand combat skills, long ranged weaponry, the mental discipline or tenacity, or whatever may modify things favorably for the other species in question.
 
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