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Does anyone really think 2017 will break the mold?

Well if the 2017 series breaks the mold a contingent of fans will grab their torches and pitchforks demanding a return to the "Star Trek we all know and love."
If it doesn't break the mold then a contingent of fans will condemn it for "being derivative and timid, unwilling to take the big risk and strike out boldly where no Trek series has gone before."

Me? I just want new Trek on the smallish screen again. Please.

Inevitably any new series will adopt something of the times in which it is filmed, not only in terms of the wider society but in the smaller sense of changing tastes, styles and production values. TV has moved on and a rehash of TNG would look outdated.

Where any new series would be judged for me would be in the spirit of the show, does it merely entertain or does it have us asking questions and thinking for years down the line?

We can't expect the franchise to remain stagnant, but nor does that mean it must be diluted in terms of actually being the thing it claims to be. This has long been my issue with the abramsverse. It's not that it looks different, or has new actors, or CGI, or lens flare (well, ok maybe just a bit there), but that it has rejuvenated the financial and commercial aspect of the franchise by sacrificing the very things that made it worth saving. Maybe on the small screen the emphasis will shift away from the spectacle and towards the content.

Arguably we are in a golden age where it come to non episodic story telling on TV, an era ushered in by the likes of Lost, 24, Prison Break, Green Wing and many others that may actually work in trek's favour come a new series. Quite simply the expected quality from small screen productions has gone up in the last twenty years in ways that aren't purely down to visual spectacle, unlike Hollywood which to my mind has become increasingly vacuous.

I imagine a new series may approach the issues of the the Middle East, mass immigration, terrorism, in the way the TOS approached the Cold War, TNG approached the Reagan era.

My own preference would be to move towards the small and away from starfleet. We could see the world through the eyes of a private crew, displaced civilians, even aliens. One thing we have pretty much missed throughout the franchise is seeing the Federation as antagonists. The galaxy must be absolutely full of dissident and seperatist groups that resent the growing hegemony of the Federation. The Maquis can't be alone in this. So how about pirates, privateers, smugglers, operating on the fringes of the Federation, faced with the consequences of events we have seen in other series?
 
Redshirts will only be as competent as the story allows them to be. Even if they're supposed to be highly trained soldiers, every extra second of screen time showing a fight is one less second of screen time devoted to the main characters and the plot of the episode.

If the argument for Star Trek on TV has been, the show is at its best when it's intellectual as opposed to being filled with action, then adding more fight scenes takes the show in the totally wrong direction.
 
If the argument for Star Trek on TV has been, the show is at its best when it's intellectual as opposed to being filled with action, then adding more fight scenes takes the show in the totally wrong direction.

True. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm just kind of saying that, sure there always is going to have to be cannon fodder for some plots. I'm just saying that overall, as a whole, whatever the new show brings us as far as "the security team" goes, they should, as a whole, have a little more depth than SW:TPM battle droids, which is essentially what we got with TNG, IMO.

Cannon fodder is fine, but the whole team shouldn't be like that. What I mean is they should have maybe AT LEAST A LITTLE personality like say GySgt Mathias in BSG.
 
How about competent? I'll settle for standard red shirts if I feel they are competent. If not, if they are generic cardboard cutouts to be shot when the situation is serious, then I'll pass. As much as I like TOS, that is one facet that can be left behind.

There also seems to be this hang up on the term "Marine." Not sure why, but I'll table the term for the moment. Use the M.A.C.Os as an example from ENT but apply that more generously to the security officers. If they go down, at least let it be either to a a). superior adversary or b) go down swinging, and c). let them win too.

I don't need characters to die to know that the situation is serious. If ST2017 breaks the mold that way, I think it is a step in the right direction. I won't hold my breath though.
 
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