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I believe current fan theory is that it has to do with "Season 6b", as FalTorPanstated. Supposedly what we didn't see at the end of War Games was the Second Doctor being offered an extended stay of sentencing. He would work for the Time Lords "spy agencies", going on missions outside the purview of the Gallifreyan High Council. This explains his presence in the Three, Five, and Two Doctors.
But, I've heard other theories, too. It's whatever you need to rationalize the dis-congruity...
The trouble with it explaining his presense in the 2 Doctors is that he and Jamie talk about victoria, not Zoe, unless in 6B they ditched Zoe and went back for victoria (which frankly they want shooting for if they did
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Unless the Time Lords actually caught up to the Doctor earlier, when Victoria was travelling with them, en them on this one mission, then erased everyones memories afterwards. Though why they'd go to all this trouble rather than send just any timelord is beyond me.
Robert Holmes was a brilliant writer, but dear lord did he cock up Who continuity with this one!
Robert Holmes was a brilliant writer, but dear lord did he cock up Who continuity with this one!
Yup! So good that it was remade as one of the Cushing films. Which I actually like. Don't hit me.
I've never watched the Cushing films, so no worries.
Yup! So good that it was remade as one of the Cushing films. Which I actually like. Don't hit me.
I've never watched the Cushing films, so no worries.
There are two of them, and they're out of print. You can find them used, but for whatever reason, they're rare. If you like the Daleks story, you'll probably like this. The Doctor is not an alien, Barbara and Susan are his granddaughters, and there are other changes. But if you've ever wondered what the original series might have been like with an enormous budget, you'll find out here.
I don't know exactly how much the movies cost, but from the look of it, each movie could have paid for the entire run of each of the first two Doctors.
Actually, more. Depending on which source I read, the budget of each episode during Hartnell's era was either 500 pounds or 1000 pounds. There were 42 episodes during the first season, so the maximum would have been 42,000 pounds. What I've been able to find on the first movie suggests it was budgeted at 180,000 pounds.
And it shows the money on screen. It looks fantastic.
Also, I had gotten the impression that, prior to "The War Games," the Doctor had successfully eluded the Time Lords ever since he'd first stolen the TARDIS. So it would explain why he is working for the Time Lords in "The Two Doctors."
Still, just to give us more options, they should have dyed Troughton's hair black for "The Two Doctors."
BTW, is "The War Games" out on DVD in the U.S. yet? I'm itching for more Troughton. The more I watch of him, the more he becomes my favorite Doctor, even above Tom Baker & David Tennant.
I agree
It's out next Tuesday, 11/03/09, along with the Fifth Doctor's Black Guardian trilogy. The following week brings us the second season of the Sarah Jane Adventures.
This thread already has me confused. I watched half of the Daleks serial. This one is MUCH better than An Unearthly child. The Doctor is completely unlikable, that's interesting for a main character.
I just realized that New Who is streaming on Netflix. 
Sounds like you're set then.
And don't mind the above posts. They'll all make sense in time.
We should all be more careful about postign spoilers though guys.
And don't mind the above posts. They'll all make sense in time.
We should all be more careful about postign spoilers though guys.
I rewatched Rose and then watched the second episode of the 2005 series today. I wish that I had seen the second episode way back when, because I probably would have stuck with it.
Question: Why is it I can't tell anyone has a British accent in the original serials, but it's blatantly obvious in the 2005 version?
Question: Why is it I can't tell anyone has a British accent in the original serials, but it's blatantly obvious in the 2005 version?
I think you're right. Chris and Billie do have strong regional accents, for a start. For anyone who's interested I have Chris' accent.
Back when they were making Who in the 60s/70s, and probably 80s, I think it would have been unlikely for someone with a strong regional accent to have a role on tv that was not meant to be a regional role. Even in 9's first episodes he had to point out that his planet had a north. Can't decide if that was RTD pointing fun at the RP days, or whether it really was a hold over to the old days and they felt it necessary to point out that a character with a northern accent could be the hero. Note that Tennant can't use his own regional accent because the Doctor couldn't have another regional accent, he had to go back to speaking "proper".
Actually, when you think about it, Who is a good treasure vault of the measures of social change in the UK.
I wouldn't say nobody in classic Who has a British accent, they just mostly have posh British accents
McCoy used his own Scot's accent didn't he? Personally I'd have prefered Tennant's Scottish burr to the somewhat mockney accent he affected, but I can see RTD's point about having two regional accents in a row. Be interesting to see what kind of accent Matt Smith uses.
McCoy used his own Scot's accent didn't he? Personally I'd have prefered Tennant's Scottish burr to the somewhat mockney accent he affected, but I can see RTD's point about having two regional accents in a row. Be interesting to see what kind of accent Matt Smith uses.
I don't have any understanding of accents and dialects or anything being an American, but what I've seen of classic Who could have passed as an American show. New Who on the other hand, no way...
These are the classic episodes available for streaming. Any of these particularly outstanding?
Pyramids of Mars
The Tomb of the Cybermen
Stones of Blood
Robots of Death
City of Death
The Aztecs
Armageddon Factor
Ark in Space
Spearhead From Space
Pirate Planet
The Talons of Weng-Chiang
Horror of Fang Rong
Leisure Hive
The Ribos Operation
The Caves of Androzani
The Green Death
Carnival of Monsters
The Three Doctors
The Power of Krall
The Androids of Tara
The Visitation
Ghost Light
Vengeance on Varos
The Curse of Fenric
Earthshock
The Wheel in Space
The Mind Robber
Pyramids of Mars
The Tomb of the Cybermen
Stones of Blood
Robots of Death
City of Death
The Aztecs
Armageddon Factor
Ark in Space
Spearhead From Space
Pirate Planet
The Talons of Weng-Chiang
Horror of Fang Rong
Leisure Hive
The Ribos Operation
The Caves of Androzani
The Green Death
Carnival of Monsters
The Three Doctors
The Power of Krall
The Androids of Tara
The Visitation
Ghost Light
Vengeance on Varos
The Curse of Fenric
Earthshock
The Wheel in Space
The Mind Robber
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