Doctor Who is better than BSG

[Dac]

Re: Doctor Who is better than BSG (In My OPINION).

Just to make things clear and friendly here

My previous post was an absolute response to the absolute statement by the OP.

Of COURSE BSG isnt perfect and of COURSE Doctor Who isnt the biggest piece of tripe created by man (That honour goes to Torchwood Season 1 ) but in my opinion BSG is better than Doctor Who. Just like in my opinion I consider Blink to the best piece of modern science fiction television ever made.

I think the thread should be renamed as to not spark any more flamebait and cause a war of words

 

[wamdue]

not read all the way back but has anyone done the

I like Doctor Who, but I also like BSG, but which is past, theres only one way to find out...

FIGHT!!!

reference yet?

or are we holding back as its been over done a bit recently?

 

[Bishbot]

I'd say the Hugo award voters have pretty much decided this issue the past three years running.

Which is fine by me. I've been hooked on DW for a couple of decades. I couldn't get more than two episodes into BSG.

Every year I've wanted BSG to win the Hugo, but been ok with the excellent Who episodes taking the glory, but really, I think Who works much better for an awards format because its different every week. You can see a rancid episode of Who and not worry that it'll be like that next week, because it probably won't. The diversity is a big strength of the programme and it makes it easier to pick out individually great episodes to award with honours.

There are standout episodes of BSG, of course, but they don't feel much different to the regular episodes, due to the arc-based nature of the show. Of course, that is ALSO a strength of the programme, but it makes it harder to go "Yes, that one was brilliant, give it the Hugo!" because odds are the brilliance of the episode rests on the two or three preceding it.

 

[MyCylon]

nuBSG is my all time favorite show, so I definitely prefer it over Dr. Who. Still, I do enjoy Dr. Who quite a bit. I recently caught up with some series 3 and 4 episodes which I found enjoyable.

Generally speaking, I think both shows are vastly different in style concept and what (I think) they're trying to achieve. So it's really hard to compare them in the first place, I think.

As for the Hugos or any other awards: Fine for the respective panels, but it has no bearing on my enjoyment of a show either way.

 

[captcalhoun]

BSG is shit.

Firefly is shit.

Babylon 5 is really, really shit.

Doctor Who is excellent 99% of the time.

Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles is awesome.

 

[Cyke101]

Babylon 5 shits on them both.

I'd argue that you have that backwards (for DW & BSG), but that's just my opinion.

 

[Bishbot]

BSG is shit.

Firefly is shit.

Babylon 5 is really, really shit.

Doctor Who is excellent 99% of the time.

Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles is awesome.

Good to know.

 

[The]

BSG is shit.

Firefly is shit.

Babylon 5 is really, really shit.

Doctor Who is excellent 99% of the time.

Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles is awesome.

I'm 12.

 

[Aquehonga]

How, or where, does StarGate figure into the:

Dr. Who>nuBSG equation

Wait, its not an equation is it

 

[wamdue]

firefly is over rated, not shit

 

[Aquehonga]

Firefly is Joss Wheaton's yes?

He brother, or cousin, of Will?

Joss Wheaton's responsible for that trainwreck, alien resurrection.

 

[Blamo]

Pfft, even with it's sometimes clumsy dialogue, B5 is the best sci-fi show yet.

Yes Firefly is very overrated, but it's still a rather good show.

 

[Bishbot]

firefly is over rated, not shit

I'm not even sure its overrated, except by a few genuine nutjobs, and what series doesn't get that?

It was a genuinely excellent piece of science fiction, and a genuinely excellent piece of television in general. In its short time it had no bad episodes (in my opinion) and several brilliant ones.

In 14 episodes its hit rate was incredible - probably better than any season of nuWho thus far - even more amazing given that this was a new property set in a brand new universe with brand new characters. I really can't think of many series that hit the ground running as well as Firefly did (humourously, for the context of this thread, BSG is another one).

All my opinion, of course, but I don't know what amazing scifi gems people are watching if they're calling Firefly, BSG, Babylon 5 or even Doctor Who overrated.

 

[Kelso]

Doctor Who has likable characters. Battlestar Galactica should be renamed "Assholes In Space" because every character is an unlikable asshole. It's like they were all at an Asshole Convention when The Cylons hit and all the good humans were the ones who got killed so only the assholes lived.

That's a good parody of the stereotypical internet geek who is out of touch with reality.

Oh, wait...

"Sarcasm. Hey, that's original." Just not good. Look up some of the other posters on here if you want to learn how to do it right.

Because being a condescending jerk who doesn't even try to refute the argument of someone who happens to not like a show he does is, of course, in no way stereotypical of an internet geek. And of course, neither is having a Star Trek avatar. Or posting at a Doctor Who board on a Star Trek forum about Battlestar Galactica. Or being a nerd. On the internet.

Well, it's a good thing you're none of those or you'd really be looking like a fool.

Oops.

I assumed that you were being disingenuous. I was just going along with the joke- or at least I thought I was.

If that was intended as a serious response this topic... then I'm afraid you missed the mark rather spectacularly. While the characters on BSG may be flawed, they rarely approach the moral ambiguity that The Doctor displays on a regular basis.

 

[Bishbot]

If that was intended as a serious response this topic... then I'm afraid you missed the mark rather spectacularly. While the characters on BSG may be flawed, they rarely approach the moral ambiguity that The Doctor displays on a regular basis.

Ha, that's actually true, hadn't thought of that - any time someone on BSG has tried to set themselves as the supreme moral arbiter who gets to decide who deserves to live and who to die, its come back to bite them in the arse. The Doctor does it all the time.

 

[Cutter John]

BSG is shit.

Firefly is shit.

Babylon 5 is really, really shit.

Doctor Who is excellent 99% of the time.

Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles is awesome.

Whoa, now you're just talkin crazy.

 

[mappster]

Guys guys guys!

There is no need to fight. They are both highly-respected shows, backed up with enormous talent and passion. They are loved by some, hated by others, but great things are often divisive.

We need to come together and agree that, each show has its strengths, and subjectively, is as brilliant as the eye-of-the-beholder would like it to be. Lets agree that a show is brilliant if its fans think it is brilliant. If something is liked by someone then it can never be crap.

Spoiler: science fiction

Except Stargate which is shit.

 

[DWF]

Firefly is Joss Wheaton's yes?

He brother, or cousin, of Will?

Joss Wheaton's responsible for that trainwreck, alien resurrection.

It's Joss Whedon not Wheaton.

 

[Thrall]

Oops.

I assumed that you were being disingenuous. I was just going along with the joke- or at least I thought I was.

Now who's being disingenuous.

If that was intended as a serious response this topic... then I'm afraid you missed the mark rather spectacularly. While the characters on BSG may be flawed, they rarely approach the moral ambiguity that The Doctor displays on a regular basis.

The Doctor also isn't human. He also has to deal with bigger picture issues most of the time. His personality also changes regularly so inconsistencies are going to take place.

The characters on Babylon 5 are flawed. The characters on Lost are flawed. The characters on NuBSG are complete lowlifes. Baltar is given a free pass for all his cowardice and betrayal, because he feels bad. And because everyone else is just as bad. Which is why he was found innocent. That was the defense's whole argument. Baltar is bad, but so is everyone else. If you condemn him, then all of them should be condemned. Roslin believes in democracy unless you get in her way. Apollo was once a great hero and a stand up guy. But was reduced to a snivelling, hypocritical shell of himself because no one is allowed to be a good person on that show. Adama only stopped in his bid to be dictator of the human race after a vision from God. Or whatever the hell that was. Deulla didn't give a crap that her boyfriend was murdered because she was too busy sleeping her way to the top. And Starbuck goes without saying. There's not a single good person among them. They all take turns being The Biggest Asshole of the week, so some are less assholish then others. But they all have to play that role eventually. And it's never fun and enjoyable.

 

[captcalhoun]

BSG is shit.

Firefly is shit.

Babylon 5 is really, really shit.

Doctor Who is excellent 99% of the time.

Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles is awesome.

I'm 12.

no, i'm 31.