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Doctor Crusher being chief medical officer of all of Starfleet?

In my head, I always pictured her heading the Medical Facility at Starfleet Command in San Fransisco. Basically, she was the Chief of Medicine of the Starfleet Command Hospital, not the person in charge of the entire Starfleet medical division.
 
I agree with those who are of the idea that Starfleet medical is basically the hospital on earth where all the starfleet personnel go.

Doesn't mean she was in charge of all medical operations in Starfleet.
 
I'd rather be out explring than stuck on earth maybe she just needed a break from wesley.
 
I know Gates left because she was tired of being chased around by one of the producers but how did they get her to come back???
 
The explanations I have always had in my mind (not because I have any real canon basis for it, but because I really wanted to figure it out as well) was 1) that she was in the same mindset as Kirk in the first few films: She was promoted and assigned to a base somewhere and realized how boring it was compared to being on the ship and exploring the unknown universe.... and also probably missed her son and the crew.

She was probably promoted to Captain, but pissed the powers-that-be off by resigning so she was demoted back to Commander.


or 2) It was a temporary thing. She was good friends to the current head of medical who requested her to fill in for them while they took a year off for some reason like maternity leave or something.
 
The thing is, being boss to the entire Medical Division would not be realistically achieved by any Commander, no matter how good or popular or well positioned or generous in her bribes. Crusher wouldn't need just a promotion to Captain, she'd need a promotion to flag rank, and preferably high flag rank because there'd be others ahead of her.

Being boss to Starfleet's equivalent of Bethesda wouldn't require a promotion and a subsequent demotion, though. It would also be a job in line with her starship CMO career, so not a promotion or demotion in that respect, either. Just a bit of broadening of your horizons before you return to the typically longer-span deep space starship work.

OTOH, while a great many people might have ambitions to become the next head of SF Medical Division, most would probably view the Starfleet Bethesda as an assignment lesser (or at least more confining) than starship CMO post, and Crusher could easily get in and would readily move out. Others from other starships would be available in hordes to keep up the rotation...

Timo Saloniemi
 
Clumsily handled by TPTB, simple as that. She'd have been at least a captain, and prolly an admiral to head up Starfleet Medical.
 
Everything I've ever heard says that she did "head up Starfleet medical", as little sense as that makes.

The answer is obvious, of course. She did receive a major promotion and an appointment to the chief of Starfleet medical. But then she was caught in a scandalous position with the UFP president, Boothby, and the Bolian ambassador :bolian: ... simultaneously. The only way for all parties to save face was to demote her back to commander and ship her back to the Enterprise.

No wonder Picard was reluctant to get involved with her. :ack:

I'm sure this will all be covered in a future book.:devil:

Hahahaha, I like this idea!! She seems the type to get into a situation that is 'Unbecoming of a Star Fleet officer' lol

Also I have to say I liked Crusher (I wish it was Wesley who disappeared for a while), I didn't like Pulaski at all.
 
Clearly, Dr. Crusher becoming head of all Starfleet Medical makes no sense. That would seem to be a position requiring an admiral rank at the very least. It was an ill-advised line of dialogue in Picard's captain's log, IMO. Now, if they said, she was CMO of Starbase 100, that would've made more sense, because I can see a doctor with commander's rank taking over that position.

I know Gates left because she was tired of being chased around by one of the producers but how did they get her to come back???

I think that was Maurice Hurley. Here's the Memory Alpha entry on him and that brouhaha, among other items.
 
you know, I'd never read that whole story before, but if McFadden really got treated that shabbily by the show's producers, who not only didn't help her when she was being sexually harassed, but then she got fired because of it, I think it's amazing she'd want to come back to the show.


I'd have had nothing but anger and resentment toward the producers of the show if I were her.
 
you know, I'd never read that whole story before, but if McFadden really got treated that shabbily by the show's producers, who not only didn't help her when she was being sexually harassed, but then she got fired because of it, I think it's amazing she'd want to come back to the show.


I'd have had nothing but anger and resentment toward the producers of the show if I were her.

Was the cast on her side? Did they know about this? Did they atleast stick up for her?
 
As already mentioned, we could say that Starfleet Medical is simply a facility, and not to be confused with the entirety of Starfleet's medical division. The head of Starfleet Medical may only warrant a commander's billet and may be akin to a chief of staff at a major hospital that answers to a higher-ranking board of trustees (which could be captains and admirals in Starfleet Medical's case).

I can buy this explanation, kind of like the U.S. Navy's Bethesda Medical Center -- but I think you need a high rank to be in charge of that hospital, too. It should've been, "Starfleet Medical One," or any such number like that.
 
I just assumed it was a Kirk-like scenario, where she took the "promotion", but then realized she hated the job. Flash forward one year, the CMO position on Enterprise opens up, and she asks for and receives her old job back.
 
The latest trek book took a swipe at this issue by having the Admiral of the Fleet say that Doctor Crusher was very qualified for the job.
 
As already mentioned, we could say that Starfleet Medical is simply a facility, and not to be confused with the entirety of Starfleet's medical division. The head of Starfleet Medical may only warrant a commander's billet and may be akin to a chief of staff at a major hospital that answers to a higher-ranking board of trustees (which could be captains and admirals in Starfleet Medical's case).

I can buy this explanation, kind of like the U.S. Navy's Bethesda Medical Center -- but I think you need a high rank to be in charge of that hospital, too.
Only one grade higher than commander, but we could say that either Starfleet is different than the U.S. Navy or that Crusher was briefly promoted to medical captain but voluntarily took a demotion in rank in order to return to the Enterprise.
 
I can buy this explanation, kind of like the U.S. Navy's Bethesda Medical Center -- but I think you need a high rank to be in charge of that hospital, too.
Only one grade higher than commander, but we could say that either Starfleet is different than the U.S. Navy or that Crusher was briefly promoted to medical captain but voluntarily took a demotion in rank in order to return to the Enterprise.

The officer in charge of the Bethesda National Naval Medical Center is a two-star rear admiral.

--Justin
 
Red Ranger said:
C.E. Evans said:
As already mentioned, we could say that Starfleet Medical is simply a facility, and not to be confused with the entirety of Starfleet's medical division. The head of Starfleet Medical may only warrant a commander's billet and may be akin to a chief of staff at a major hospital that answers to a higher-ranking board of trustees (which could be captains and admirals in Starfleet Medical's case).
I can buy this explanation, kind of like the U.S. Navy's Bethesda Medical Center -- but I think you need a high rank to be in charge of that hospital, too.
Only one grade higher than commander, but we could say that either Starfleet is different than the U.S. Navy or that Crusher was briefly promoted to medical captain but voluntarily took a demotion in rank in order to return to the Enterprise.

The officer in charge of the Bethesda National Naval Medical Center is a two-star rear admiral.
But he's not the chief of staff at Bethesda though--that person holds the rank of captain and oversees the day-to-day operations of the facility, IIRC...
 
But he's not the chief of staff at Bethesda though--that person holds the rank of captain and oversees the day-to-day operations of the facility, IIRC...

Leadership at NNMC

The title is "Commander, National Naval Medical Center," who would certainly be the person "in charge." The title of "chief of staff" in the navy is basically a flag officer's executive officer, unlike a traditional hospital chief of staff. The chief of staff to the admiral at Bethesda is also the Deputy Commander and, because Bethesda is in the process of becoming a joint-forces medical facility, is currently an army colonel.

--Justin
 
I just assumed it was a Kirk-like scenario, where she took the "promotion", but then realized she hated the job. Flash forward one year, the CMO position on Enterprise opens up, and she asks for and receives her old job back.

I can buy this explanation as well. I can also see Beverly being temporarily promoted to full captain, then once she left that post, being reduced to commander again.
 
But he's not the chief of staff at Bethesda though--that person holds the rank of captain and oversees the day-to-day operations of the facility, IIRC...


The title is "Commander, National Naval Medical Center," who would certainly be the person "in charge."
Which doesn't mean anything as far as Starfleet Medical is concerned, because it doesn't have to be run the exact same way (and likely isn't, IMO). As I said in my earlier posts, Starfleet Medical could be run like a traditional hospital with the chief of staff (which could have been Crusher) being the one in charge reporting to a board of trustees--which in Starfleet Medical's case, could be comprised of senior captains and admirals. The chief of staff could be considered the boss of a hospital, even if he or she has a boss of their own.
The chief of staff to the admiral at Bethesda is also the Deputy Commander and, because Bethesda is in the process of becoming a joint-forces medical facility, is currently an army colonel.
Past chief of staffs, however, have been navy captains, which was my real point there.
 
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