Sounds to me like severe dilution of the X-universe concept for negligible narrative gain.
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The stigma against the mutants does not make sense if there are a zillion meta humans around.
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I think part of the issue is that the majority of mutants cannot pass as human like most of the X-men (Although a few of them can't either-Nightcrawler for instance).
Well its not written in the contract but it may wind up like Spiderman. too much pressure.
In 2014 sony failed with spiderman both critically and commercial and marvel is just too big now so sony had to humble themselves and give back the right to spiderman for limited purpose.
that may be the same fate for FF if FF fails again.
How? Having there be more to the world than just normal Humans and Mutants doesn't mess up anything and serves as some background stuff in the other movies.
That's like saying having the expanded Galaxy seen in Guardians of the Galaxy dilutes the Earth stuff.
Thor isn't that widely known (and Asgardians probably wouldn't be that well regarded after Loki's attack), Spider-Man usually is hated (it's something he and the X-Men bond over) and the FF are loved because of Reed Richards' past contributions to society. They figure his good outweighs his freakiness.
And anyways, I always found the mutant hatred in the Singer movies too 1-Dimensional and lacking in nuance.
Honestly, I'm happy with the present arrangement. The X-Men movies seem to be in good hands, and Marvel Studios, denied the X-Men, has more incentive to explore the rest of their catalog: Doctor Strange, the Inhumans, the Guardians of the Galaxy,Ant-Man, and so on.
In the long run, it's arguably been a good thing that Marvel can't rely on Wolverine (and Spider-Man), although Marvel might not feel the same way . . ..
In the long run, it's arguably been a good thing that Marvel can't rely on Wolverine (and Spider-Man), although Marvel might not feel the same way . . ..
I re-watched all of the X-Men movies fairly recently and I have yo say that I don't really like them. The comics I read had multiple plots, a huge cast, and varied in tone and subject from story to story. The X-Men movies are mostly about Wolverine, the minority persecution angle, and completely lacking in the character interaction, sense of family, sense of humor, sense of wonder, and wish fulfillment that made me love the comics.
I wish Marvel could take over the X-Men on screen, but I think the only thing that could do it justice wouldn't be a film series, but rather a TV series with the old fashioned and largely unfeasible 26 episode seasons Trek used to enjoy. Maybe with a film every few years to do the sorts of stories that'd require blockbuster film budgets.
Eh, it'll never happen.
I wish Marvel could take over the X-Men on screen, but I think the only thing that could do it justice wouldn't be a film series, but rather a TV series with the old fashioned and largely unfeasible 26 episode seasons Trek used to enjoy. Maybe with a film every few years to do the sorts of stories that'd require blockbuster film budgets.
Eh, it'll never happen.
Xmen are mutants other marvel heroes are not. FF are a product of a space something that went wrong.
the reason why people hate xmen is because xmen represent the next stage of evolution xmen reminds humans of their own future extinction and that is why they hate the xmen.
unlike most MCU heroes. xmen were born with their special abilities..
It could, decades down the line when both properties are used up. They could merge for a movie blaming Scarlet Witch or Thanos or something for the amalgam. If it would gain the studios more money then what they're making at that point, they'll do it.
Much as I'd like to see one coherent universe, I'm tempted to agree. However, the Fantastic Four being in the X-verse poses similar issues -
Or just a few popular ones...
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I'm just going by the movies here, but from what I've seen, the whole point of the X-universe is that mutants are so different and weird and uncanny from the rest of humanity. If you throw in lots of cosmically/radiation-enhanced humans and stuff, not to mention other costumed heroes and mortals whose gadgets should but somehow don't kill them eighteen times before breakfast (Stark in your tin can, getting smacked around, I'm looking at you), the very existence of mutants becomes less out-there and colorful.
I'm not entirely opposed to aliens in the X-world, but given that you can call someone a mutant and give them pretty much any power/ability you want, why unnecessarily complicate things in any kind of hurry, let alone retroactively?
The difference is, the MCU has always been about all kinds of different exceptional individuals, whereas the X-CU has always been about just mutants.
Now, I'm open to the idea of gradually expanding its scope, as the Arrowverse has gradually introduced metahumans to its world. But, if you'll pardon the pun, clumsily mashing the X-CU into the MCU (Stryker not an Army colonel after all? No way, Jose) would certainly be the worst of both worlds.
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The thing about the MCU is that superbeings are a recent phenomenon (aside from Captain America, and most people didn't know he was a superhuman).
Even in the first X-Men it seems like Mutants are a recent phenomenon (in the public's eye, anyways) despite Xavier and Magneto having been doing their thing since the 60s.
So having the mutants be something the public knew about for about a decade before the start of this hypothetical merged universe and then have the Superbeings start appearing (and that's a real stretch, because only Thor and the Hulk are truly Super) would work out.
I mean, the only Super the public knows about (Hulk)...the public DO fear him.
The other MCU characters aren't well known enough or "Inhuman" enough to get the attention that mutants do.
And like I'm saying, the MCU guys known to the public either ARE hated (Hulk) or aren't inhuman enough to register. It makes sense they'd fear mutants more than guys like Cap.
But, if you'll pardon the pun, clumsily mashing the X-CU into the MCU (Stryker not an Army colonel after all? No way, Jose) would certainly be the worst of both worlds.
SHIELD Personnel are still part of the US Armed Forces. Fury is a US General at the same time he's SHIELD's Director.
And anyways, no one cared they changed Stryker from being a Minister to a military man.
There may not be a lot of superbeings on Earth in the MCU yet, but that's going to change once all the humans with latent Inhuman genes suddenly find themselves with superpowers. It's already started, and I expect between now and Inhumans in 2018 it's going to become a pretty big issue. Once that does happen, the hysteria over mutants in the X-Men universe really won't make much sense if they tried to bring it over to the MCU.
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