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If we are trying to eliminate judgement based upon race, or gender, or whatever, why do those things still matter at all? Why can't people dye their skin like hair color? Why can't women play men in productions (other than transvestite comedies) and demand that we use our imaginations? Or Asians play Brits? There's no symmetry in the objection to those things.
not this shit again
My dad is a plumber, on the nightly soap we watched, years ago when I was tiny, one of the characters was "supposed" to be a plumber, and Dad'd usually say something like "Oh my god! My god! Look at his ####ing tool box! What a ####ing clown! What the hell is he going to with four inch piping on that sort or jobsite!? Fuck, Fuck, I can't breathe! What a dopey shit!"
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Don't be dense, please. Injustice based on race and gender hasn't been eliminated and some of these things have long histories tied up with oppression. Nobody cares if you think there's "symmetry in the objections," that's not your business.
(At any rate we're supposed to be keeping the political discussion out of here, right?)
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I read a book as a kid "Let The Circle Be Unbroken", portraying the struggles of a black family trying hard to make an honest living as farmers in a dirt poor town, 1930's depression era; racism is not only rampant, it's accepted - accept for a handful of "decent" white folks who are genuinely trying to break down societal barriers. This one kid got framed for a murder he didn't commit, because the white kids who did the murder wore black stockings over there face to appear black.
Persecution of blacks persisted long after slavery was abolished, and as a country we've come a long way. But wearing blackface is just as appropriate as wearing concentration camp "uniforms" or swastikas.
Because it's racist.
You honestly don't think black face is racist?
Many things are racist if you construe them to be so. Black face (makeup)? < Yes, racist. Dying your skin not so much.
Exactly. Dying your skin green to play an Orion or Blue to play an Andorian is not ravist because Orions and Andorians don't really exist. Dying your skin black to pretend to be black is racist because blacks do exist and black face has a very troubled history in America.
Why?
Who are the racist thought police who have made this rule?
Who decides whats racist or not?
To me racism depends on context. If the context is hate then its racist.
If the context has no malice its not.
Bad things happened in history, humans and life sucks. What matters is people get over themselves and move on.
Let's make sure we are talking about the same thing, and it's not make up effects. We have agreed Black Face make up is racist (in our two opinions). What I am interested in is why you think dying ones skin (not for make up, or playing a role) but actually dying it like one would their hair color, or perhaps analogous to tattooing.
It seems to me if you actually go to the trouble of dying your skin a different color, it's not to make a racial statement, but would instead be a fashion statement.
Well, I would have to point out that that's okay so long as everyone has an equal chance to move on. Inequity can't be ignored.
You mean like spray-on-tan? LOL, no, spray-on-tan is not racist.
LOL. No, I'm taking the argument at it's literal definition, dying your skin a different color. Spray on tan is more like make up.
Why would you dye your skin? I think it depends on the reason and the reception.
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