Do you think Doctor 10.2 told Rose about Donna?

[Samurai8472]

I was rewatching the last few minutes of Journey's End. Near the end Doctor 10.2 says that he's thinks like the original doctor and everything.

Do you think Doctor 10.2 told Rose about Donna's condition and how she would need a memory wipe?

 

[Starkers]

What would be the point? This is the guy who didn't even tell Rose what planet he was from

 

[shivkala]

If you ask me, "happy" ending aside, I don't see 10.2 and Rose being able to sustain a lasting relationship. If he did tell Rose, I only see that driving a wedge between them, as in a "bad things always happen to people who you cared for" kind of way.

 

[TigerOfDarkness]

If you ask me, "happy" ending aside, I don't see 10.2 and Rose being able to sustain a lasting relationship. If he did tell Rose, I only see that driving a wedge between them, as in a "bad things always happen to people who you cared for" kind of way.

I agree, I didn't get the feeling they'd live "happliy ever after".

 

[Allyn Gibson]

If you ask me, "happy" ending aside, I don't see 10.2 and Rose being able to sustain a lasting relationship. If he did tell Rose, I only see that driving a wedge between them, as in a "bad things always happen to people who you cared for" kind of way.

Read The Forgotten #5. That's all I'm going to say.

 

[wamdue]

If you ask me, "happy" ending aside, I don't see 10.2 and Rose being able to sustain a lasting relationship. If he did tell Rose, I only see that driving a wedge between them, as in a "bad things always happen to people who you cared for" kind of way.

I agree, I didn't get the feeling they'd live "happliy ever after".

I agree as well.

 

[Samurai8472]

If you ask me, "happy" ending aside, I don't see 10.2 and Rose being able to sustain a lasting relationship. If he did tell Rose, I only see that driving a wedge between them, as in a "bad things always happen to people who you cared for" kind of way.

I always see a sappy ending where one of them gets hit by a car

10.2- oooh I wish I could regenerate.....right now!

 

[Sci]

I don't know that they'll live "happily ever after." Like all couples, they'll have their ups and their downs -- and if the Pete's World Torchwood is as dangerous a line of work as Captain Jack's, I'm sure they'll have their share of challenges.

But I think that Rose and the Doctor have a very special relationship, and I don't think either one will ever abandon the other.

 

[wamdue]

its not so much the Doctor & Rose, or Torchwood, (it maybe a similar set up to the 3rd Doctor & UNIT) its more the Doctor, with all his memory's of everything that went before accepting his humanity and building a life based on that.

 

[ClayinCA]

If you ask me, "happy" ending aside, I don't see 10.2 and Rose being able to sustain a lasting relationship. If he did tell Rose, I only see that driving a wedge between them, as in a "bad things always happen to people who you cared for" kind of way.

Read The Forgotten #5. That's all I'm going to say.

Yeah, but I don't think things are as they seem in that issue. I can't imagine IDW would be allowed to do what it looks like they're doing...

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Yeah, but I don't think things are as they seem in that issue. I can't imagine IDW would be allowed to do what it looks like they're doing...

They only way IDW could do that is if the BBC approved it. When you write in someone else's universe, you don't get to write something they don't approve of. When you play in someone else's sandbox, you can't break the toys. Tony Lee didn't just do that; the BBC would have signed off every step of the way.

 

[Bacl]

Yeah, but I don't think things are as they seem in that issue. I can't imagine IDW would be allowed to do what it looks like they're doing...

They only way IDW could do that is if the BBC approved it. When you write in someone else's universe, you don't get to write something they don't approve of. When you play in someone else's sandbox, you can't break the toys. Tony Lee didn't just do that; the BBC would have signed off every step of the way.

I actually think it is rather clever. One of the recurring themes I keep seeing in Science Fiction that I strongly agree with is that if you ever happened to meet yourself, then you probably wouldn't get along.

I can think of half a dozen sci-fi shows where a character meets themself, someone who is for all intents and purposes really truly them, and when the writers thought about how this character might react to being in the same room with themself the answer was always the same: they'd hate themself.

Very clever, and I think very true. If I was Doc 10.2, then I'd likely be very very pissed at "The real Doctor"

 

[Samurai8472]

If I was Doc 10.2, then I'd likely be very very pissed at "The real Doctor"

Chalk that up to him being "born full anger" I picked that up with the "But you made me!"

edit: So I see this deleted scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlsNcan2wpQ

The real doctor gives 10.2 a chunk of Tardis to grow and Donna explains a shorter way to grow it. Then she she says

"human with a timelord brain, perfect combination"

10.2 HAS to be thinking deep down

"oh no she can't stay like this.......the real me will have to wipe her mind"

 

[SeerSGB]

If you ask me, "happy" ending aside, I don't see 10.2 and Rose being able to sustain a lasting relationship. If he did tell Rose, I only see that driving a wedge between them, as in a "bad things always happen to people who you cared for" kind of way.

I always see a sappy ending where one of them gets hit by a car

10.2- oooh I wish I could regenerate.....right now!

Who's to say they won't got that road if they want to bring back 10.2 for some reason. Something tramatic happens, and it "shocks" his system into kicking off some sort of dromant organ or gene that triggers a regeneration cycle.

If you ask me, "happy" ending aside, I don't see 10.2 and Rose being able to sustain a lasting relationship. If he did tell Rose, I only see that driving a wedge between them, as in a "bad things always happen to people who you cared for" kind of way.

I agree, I didn't get the feeling they'd live "happliy ever after".

I agree as well.

Add me to the "they're ultimately doomed" list. For some reason, Rose and 10, even 10.2, seemed to be the couple that want to be together but the reality is that they're not really right for each other and they're trying to make it work. Only to realize that it'll never work.

 

[Guy Gardener]

There was a massively funny bit in the Lindsy Lohan Freaky Friday movie where she and Jaimie Curtis think that they can get back into their right bodies by running at and hypothetically into each other as quickly and forcefully as possible.

**Smack**

That might work for 10.2, if he times it well. Y'know physically throwing himself at 10 while he's regenerating into 11. Assimilation and integration.

Same questions as always.

Does Davey get paid twice?

I suppose if that were so, then Nicky would get paid per Dalek.

That would clock some extreme bank for the cgi space flotilla scenes.

 

[Sci]

Does Davey get paid twice?

I suppose if that were so, then Nicky would get paid per Dalek.

That would clock some extreme bank for the cgi space flotilla scenes.

I don't know why he would get paid twice. He's paid to be a cast member, not on the basis of how many characters he plays. I mean, heck, since starting DW, Tennant has played 6 characters: The Doctor, Cassandra, the Living Star Alien, John Smith, the Midnight Alien, and Consolation Doctor. I doubt he was getting paid by the character!

 

[Guy Gardener]

I am just being a bore, sorry, but if they had cast David Tenant's (Not that I am aware that he has one.) twin brother as 10.2, well they wouldn't have halved his pay check would they just because his duties shrank? I'm pretty certain they didn't in Sliders or Buffy, and I'm pretty certain that Kelly and Clinton got paid for doing work which Nicky and Cleavant would have had to stomach gratis on any usual day on the set.

But I do recall that Helmboy from Enterprise complaining that he got a full weeks pay for just standing around in the background looking important most weeks. Lad must have some pride. Good for him.

 

[Ol Scratch]

I'm still confused by how confident the Doctor was that there were no alternative-universe versions of himself. What's so special about Time Lords that makes them uni-universal? They developed the ability to travel through time and space and, also apparently through artificial means, gave themselves the ability to regenerate when they die. Not sure how that makes them unique to a single universe anymore than any other advanced race.

A bit off-topic, I know, and I apologize.

 

[Bacl]

I'm still confused by how confident the Doctor was that there were no alternative-universe versions of himself. What's so special about Time Lords that makes them uni-universal? They developed the ability to travel through time and space and, also apparently through artificial means, gave themselves the ability to regenerate when they die. Not sure how that makes them unique to a single universe anymore than any other advanced race.

A bit off-topic, I know, and I apologize.

Apparently Timelords are a wee bit more than just another alien race. It is not that they are a species that just happened to invent and perfect time travel and that's all there is to them. They are beyond us, above us. Something greater.

 

[Ol Scratch]

Is that ever really shown? The only time we hear about it is when one of them are telling us these things. They rely on technology for everything they do; if they could travel through time or even regenerate without limitation (or a limitation that made more sense than X times that can be refurbished on a whim), I'd be inclined to buy it. But... just doesn't come across that way.

Save, again, for the holier-than-thou preaching about how special they are.