Do you consider THE MOTION PICTURE as a TOS's series finale?

[Emperor-Tiberius]

I mean, like "All Good Things" in TNG, TMP shows Kirk and co. later in their lives, coming together after a long time for one more mission.

Given how TOS never had an official Series Finale like all other shows had, would you personally consider TMP as TOS's finale, before moving on to the next series of stories expanding from II to VI?

Well?

 

[Smiley]

Its ending is fitting, but its style is too different from TOS for me to consider it a finale for that show. TUC is often proposed as a TOS series finale, and that makes sense. An episode that I think works well as a finale is "All Our Yesterdays."

 

[Michael]

No, TOS had no real finale.

 

[Warp14]

TMP had a different feel than the series. It did address Spock's inner battle between his human and vulcan sides. There was some series closure there. Beyond that, it felt like a separate entity from TOS. Everything from the drab uniforms to Shatner's very unhammy acting, it wasn't the final curtain on TOS, but the beginning of something else. It was much more 10th high school reunion than last day of high school.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

"All Good Things" also wasn't the final adventure of Enterprise D or Picard's crew, but it was the final story of that show that had showed the progress of the characters in the event of a great disaster.

 

[Michael]

"All Good Things" also wasn't the final adventure of Enterprise D or Picard's crew, but it was the final story of that show that had showed the progress of the characters in the event of a great disaster.

I think the big difference is that "All Good Things ..." was written as a finale. "Turnabout Intruder" or "The Motion Picture" were not.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

"All Good Things" also wasn't the final adventure of Enterprise D or Picard's crew, but it was the final story of that show that had showed the progress of the characters in the event of a great disaster.

I think the big difference is that "All Good Things ..." was written as a finale. "Turnabout Intruder" or "The Motion Picture" were not.

I am aware of that, of course. I'm just asking if the possibility of viewing TMP as the Series Finale, or epilogue to that first five-year-mission with the beggining of a new one at the end, is there.

 

[EliyahuQeoni]

No. TMP doesn't feel like its wrapping up TOS, it feels like its starting something new

 

[KeepOnTrekking]

No, STTMP definitely comes across to me as the beginning of another 5-year mission and for Spock...the human adventure is just beginning.

I suppose if you wanted my opinion on the series finale...it might be "Beyond the Farthest Star." It even has Kirk saying "Final Entry" in his last Captain's Log.

 

[number6]

I actually consider TUC as the TOS series finale.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

I actually consider TUC as the TOS series finale.

I consider TUC to be the overal finale of the TOS era, as I consider NEM to be the finale of the TNG/DS9/VOY era. The difference is, TUC was an actual finale, whereas NEM wasn't as much.

 

[Basill]

I don't feel that TOS ever had a finale per se, but TMP was a totally new beginning for me, certainly not a finale for the series. They are linked naturally, but the movies and TOS are, to me, different entities. I like to think of them (all of Trek's incarnations really) as "facets" of a single stone. Now this new upcoming movie... might need to be a separate gem (or potato spud) altogether depending on how it turns out. Just my view.

 

[number6]

I could see NEM as being a TNG finale of sorts.. The crew under Picard is moving onto new things and Data is dead. How it becomes a YOV/DS9 finale is a bit of a stretch. Both had sufficient series endings on the small screen, never having been launched on the big one.

TUC, OTOH IS the last voyage of the Enterprise under Kirk, so TUC wraps up TOS quite well.

TMP is a continuation into a series of new voyages with Kirk and the rest. TUC is the definitive end.

JJ Trek will be another story entirely.

 

[Red Ranger]

No. TMP doesn't feel like its wrapping up TOS, it feels like its starting something new

I agree with this. Looks like the votes so far bear out this feeling. TUC, if you stretched it a bit, is really more of a TOS finale than TMP. Then there's GEN, which puts an end to Kirk. -- :rr:

 

[EliyahuQeoni]

I see TUC as a finale to the TOS Film Series and a send off of the original crew, but TOS itself really didn't have a finale.

 

[Cranston]

Huh. Guess I'm the only one.

I answered "yes" because I've long thought of TMP as the last time the TOS characters were really the same people, operating in the same universe as TOS. Yes, it's very different visually, and I do like the later movies to varying degrees, but it still feels the most TOS to me. It's the last TOS episode as far as I'm concerned.

So not really a "series finale" literally, but close enough for me.

 

[Therin of Andor]

No, TOS had no real finale.

I think of "The Counter-clock Incident" (TAS) as being a finale to TOS. It guest stars the first captain of the Enterprise, April, and his wife! An appropriate way to finish up.

 

[The Squire of Gothos]

TMP is more of a hiccup in the path from WNMHGB to TUC.

Its a nice film, but its more of a clinic approach to Trek, devoid of a lot of the warmth between the lead characters that was as important as the wonder of the universe at large.

TUC concentrates more on the crew interaction and wraps everything up nicely for a major part of the history of the Federation and the crew themselves. So we do get a look at the bigger and smaller picture, as well as keeping the bits from the show we were most fond of.

 

[Warped9]

I mean, like "All Good Things" in TNG, TMP shows Kirk and co. later in their lives, coming together after a long time for one more mission.

Given how TOS never had an official Series Finale like all other shows had, would you personally consider TMP as TOS's finale, before moving on to the next series of stories expanding from II to VI?

Well?

A series ending? No.

But my sig underlines that I think TMP was the real end of the line of TOS. After that I found it very hit-and-miss. TMP was the promise of something that never followed again and never came to be.

 

[erastus25]

I, also, consider it a new beginning. One of my reasons is because they redesigned the Enterprise. That, to me, is symbolic of "this is something new."