Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Annorax849, Feb 4, 2018.

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Is it?

  1. Yes, that's the official word and it still fits

    179 vote(s)
    45.2%
  2. Yes, but it's borderline at this point

    45 vote(s)
    11.4%
  3. No, there's just too many inconsistencies

    131 vote(s)
    33.1%
  4. I don't care about continuity, just the show's quality

    41 vote(s)
    10.4%
  1. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Considering Roddenberry and TNG first season, its a Star Trek tradition.
     
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  2. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Captain Captain

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    I can't believe people are still defending that Augment bullshit
     
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  3. XCV330

    XCV330 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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  4. Pindar

    Pindar Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    In ENT you saw ice caves and a bit of tundra.
     
  5. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Maybe it wasn't Paris.

    Sure, we did see the Eiffel Tower, but that could just be a copy.
     
  6. King Daniel Beyond

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    Paris 2: Croissant Chaos
     
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  7. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    Like the small one from Las Vegas?

     
  8. XCV330

    XCV330 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I almost thought they might have been showing Tokyo (Tokyo Tower looks quite a bit like Eiffel tower with a different paint scheme) but then the street layout, and the French writing at the Starfleet building showed it was indeed Paris. I cant imagine Parisiennes letting that happen to their city, though, especially after a rebuild.

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  9. ozzfloyd

    ozzfloyd Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    China has a replica Paris city.
     
  10. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    This is what happened when the county of Yorkshire conquered France...War of the Roses II
     
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  11. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    It isn't bullshit.
     
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  12. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    They were asking about Discovery not Enterprise.
     
  13. Serveaux

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    Certainly the Discovery aesthetic is depressing and ugly where stuff like Paris is concerned. That said, given that the city has apparently become the capital of a galactic civilization it's not hard to imagine that the attendant demands of that role might overwhelm centuries of history and tradition. :(
     
  14. Tenacity

    Tenacity Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Paris and France said no, the Federation said yes.

    End of story.
     
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  15. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    So France is still 0-for-history.
     
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  16. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Captain Captain

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    It sure is. Growing up with Star Trek, we never questioned the Klingon's appearances. It was simple: budget was bigger, so they changed the make-up. If TOS had the same budget and make-up skills, Klingons would have looked similar. We just went it it. No explanation needed. Never, not once did I hear anyone bitching about it. Then the infamous DS9 episode happened and the writers decided to make a joke about it. Suddenly, in universe, someone acknowledged that change. That was completely unnecessary, but at least the explanation given (we don't talk about it) was good enough Fine, something changed, the Klingons don't want to talk about. Let's respect that and move on...
    Whoever the braindead ENT writer was who decided we need the Augment virus, he was wrong, offering an explanation were for decades fans, who were totally fine to either live without one or make up their own head canon before, absolutely no explanation was necessary. And the one we got was so goddamn stupid, so outrageously dumb, so unapologetically nonsensical that it angered us more than it satisfied those couple of people who might have been under the impression they needed one.
    The less said about the Augments, the faster this dark period of Star Trek writing gets forgotten, the better.
     
  17. ozzfloyd

    ozzfloyd Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Hahaha. Nope.
     
  18. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I agree it wasn't needed, but I don't think it's bullshit. It was a good couple episodes.
     
  19. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Captain Captain

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    they still make me angry, decades later
     
  20. cultcross

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    The thing that bugs me about it is how people now say there simply must be an in-universe explanation for why the DSC Klingons look different, and then when it's pointed out they looked different in TMP onwards, we get "ah yes, but augment virus!"
    So for the two decades or so between TMP and ENT season 4, we thought we were in a parallel universe, or that those weren't Klingons? No. After some grumbling, they were just accepted as a new makeup and costume design. Just as with the Trill, or the Andorians, or the Tellerites, or the Romulans.

    ENT has ended up setting a precedent now that we can expect fanwanky explanations for things that we once just happily accepted. Writing wise, that's not a good precedent to set, in my opinion.
     
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