Do You Believe the Official Chronology?

[Timewalker]

April was the first captain of the Constitution-class Enterprise, NCC-1701. The establishment of the NX-01 doesn't change that, and April was included in the Okuda chronology despite being established in TAS.

Also, the Okuda chronology put TOS in production order, not broadcast.

What is this "Okuda chronology"?

And excuse me, but some of us aren't up on all the different makes and models and classes of starships. I'm not up on that kind of stuff for RL terrestrial cars and trucks, and tend not to notice much of this stuff in ST. All I know is that some starships are bigger than others.

Do you have a link for the games? I'd be interested in checking that out. Of course, with my luck it might not be available to Canadians...

The BBC Who website offers the games free on this page:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006q2x0/features/funandgames

not sure if they are available overseas, if not these people offer them as a bundle though they charge.

http://www.legacygames.com/download-games/263/PC/Doctor+Who:+The+Adventure+Games+Bundle+for+PC

There are other sites you can get the games free I am told....

Thank you.

I never noticed a dead crewmember showing up later in Turnabout Intruder! Mind you, I did notice Kirk making a new doorway for himself when he left the briefing room. I don't understand your reference to Assignment: Earth, though. What am I missing?

Actually meant "The Omega Glory" not Assignment Earth, in which poor Lt Galloway is killed by Ron Tracy. He shows up in Turnabout intruder.
( Lt Leslie also came back from the dead, following having his blood drained in Obsession, but at least he was not vaporized - often wondered whether he had a craving for the blood of the living afterwards though....)

He probably has a twin brother. If the Delaney sisters can serve on Voyager, why can't Leslie have a twin brother on the Enterprise?

(actually, I've always wondered why twins or even siblings would be allowed on the same ship - must get confusing when the Captain bellows for them by their last name and they have to stop to figure out which one is wanted)

Robert April clashes with Enterprise because Robert April was the first Captain of the Enterprise. Not some twit named Jonathan Archer. If they'd used April and Sarah Poole in the Enterprise series (with or without the dog; I liked Porthos), I wouldn't have complained half as much. I'd still have complained about the stupid stories, but not about who the Captain was.

In fairness April was the first captain of USS Enterprise NCC-1701, with the NX 01 simply being a different ship. in terms of continuity Sarah April being said to be the first CMO on a warp capable ship is probably a bigger glitch ( and contradicted by earlier TAS episodes by for example the presence of the Bonaventure).
Again this harkens to the difference between canon and continuity - maybe after seeing years of UNIT dating debates, I'm just more jaded....

It's the Daleks' fault. (yes, I know there are a couple of really annoying continuity messes in the Pertwee stories that make it impossible to mesh with later Davison stories, which likely further messes things up later on...)

 

[T'Girl]

... in which poor Lt Galloway is killed by Ron Tracy. He shows up in Turnabout intruder.

It wasn't that unusual for one actor to play different characters on TOS. The character played by the actor David Ross in Turnabout intruder is only referred to as "Lieutenant," and never by name.

 

[The Old Mixer]

April was the first captain of the Constitution-class Enterprise, NCC-1701. The establishment of the NX-01 doesn't change that, and April was included in the Okuda chronology despite being established in TAS.

Also, the Okuda chronology put TOS in production order, not broadcast.

What is this "Okuda chronology"?

And excuse me, but some of us aren't up on all the different makes and models and classes of starships. I'm not up on that kind of stuff for RL terrestrial cars and trucks, and tend not to notice much of this stuff in ST. All I know is that some starships are bigger than others.

I was responding to something said by another poster when referring to the Chronology.

The NX-01 and NCC-1701 are two different ships that served a century apart. The NX-01 doesn't violate the idea of April as the first captain of the 1701 any more than the ringship on the rec room wall in TMP.

 

[sariel2005]

It wasn't that unusual for one actor to play different characters on TOS. The character played by the actor David Ross in Turnabout intruder is only referred to as "Lieutenant," and never by name.

He is named in the end credits.

He did play a different character in Day of the Dove however.

 

[T'Girl]

He is named in the end credits.

But not within the episode itself.

 

[Timewalker]

@sariel2005: I checked out the games, but they're not free for people outside the UK and I saw no provision for a trial version before deciding to purchase.

 

[JJohnson]

There's a wonderful book out there, an over-sized paperback called THE STAR TREK CHRONOLOGY.

It's a detailed timeline that puts dates to TOS. "The Cage" is in 2253, WNM is 2265, the first season is 2266-67, and so on.

Paramount considers it canon. I accept it as such. Do you?

Yes. It's gathered as much as possible together in one spot from the 40+ years of film and TV.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Robert April clashes with Enterprise because Robert April was the first Captain of the Enterprise. Not some twit named Jonathan Archer. If they'd used April and Sarah Poole in the Enterprise series (with or without the dog; I liked Porthos), I wouldn't have complained half as much. I'd still have complained about the stupid stories, but not about who the Captain was.

Note that "The Counter-Clock Incident" explicitly said that Sarah April was "...the first medical officer aboard a ship equipped with warp drive" in reference to the Enterprise, completely ignoring the starship Bonaventure from the earlier TAS episode "The Time Trap" let alone the TOS episode "Metamorphosis" which had previously put the invention of warp drive much much earlier, and think about how stange it is to get nitpicky about the name Johnathan Archer on what was clearly supposed to be a different starship Enterprise (they don't even look alike) that even flew under a different flag to Kirk's version (Earth instead of the UFP) a whole century earlier.

 

[BillJ]

Robert April clashes with Enterprise because Robert April was the first Captain of the Enterprise. Not some twit named Jonathan Archer. If they'd used April and Sarah Poole in the Enterprise series (with or without the dog; I liked Porthos), I wouldn't have complained half as much. I'd still have complained about the stupid stories, but not about who the Captain was.

Actually, James Smith was the first Captain of the Enterprise. How dare that twit Gene Roddenberry claim it was Robert April.

 

[Nerys Myk]

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[Nerys Myk]

Robert April clashes with Enterprise because Robert April was the first Captain of the Enterprise. Not some twit named Jonathan Archer. If they'd used April and Sarah Poole in the Enterprise series (with or without the dog; I liked Porthos), I wouldn't have complained half as much. I'd still have complained about the stupid stories, but not about who the Captain was.

That makes no sense in the context of the show. Unless the 1701 is 100 years old and April was alive ( and an adult) in the 22nd Century he couldn't command the ship seen in Enterprise.

There have been spaceships called "Enterprise" in Star Trek prior to the 1701. The ringship seen in TMP (and Enterprise) is one. So the Enterprise doesn't have to be the 1701.