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Poll Do You Believe STD Is Actually a Reboot [After Seeing It]?

Is STD a Reboot?

  • Yes

    Votes: 115 39.9%
  • No

    Votes: 173 60.1%

  • Total voters
    288
The JJ Reboot films (which Discovery is very close to) used the classic TOS sounds as well.
Yes, but they were far more augmented and thereafter supplemented with new sounds. Here, the sounds were directly lifted from TOS, the movies and the Berman shows and reused. These felt like they belonged, as opposed to JJ Trek's IMO.
 
You know - (and for Example) a lot of folks are going:
"Hey how come the U.S.S. Shenzhou has 'touch screen controls and not physical Sliders?"

But hey, look at the Image below for the Transporter Room Console prop used in BOTH TOS - "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (BTW - it's also the Helm Console in those two pilots ;)) -- But, my point:

No physical sliders and it looks like it might have 'touch panel' controls as well. (And if you listen, they DIS use the TOS tranporter energize sound effect when engaging the touch panel sliders on the U.S.S. Shenzhou.)
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I think it feels like a reboot but only a reboot of "TOS." Alot of the way the characters talked and told the story felt very much like Berman era Trek which is what I think is their possible intent. They want "Discovery" to replace "TOS" as the definitive show from this time period in Trek. KIrk,Spock and the Enterprise will only be vague references to a show that they no longer want to matter to the fans. "TNG" Kind of took that view as well only problem is it never fully worked and still had to share the franchise with "TOS."

Jason
 
It's in the Prime universe, set 10 years before TOS. Does it "look" like it? Absolutely.

Did you not see the Klingons? They look nothing like Prime Klingons and exactly like Kelvin Klingons. In fact everything about the show looked like it takes place in the Kelvin universe.
 
"Prime" is just a buzzword. It's ultimately meaningless to CBS. But because they think enough fans care about it, they advertised DSC as being in the "prime" universe, and a prequel to TOS, to get more people to watch the show, when it quite clearly isn't. It's just a business move. Just like only showing part one of a two (or three) part pilot and forcing you to buy CBSAA to see more was a business move.
 
Did you not see the Klingons? They look nothing like Prime Klingons and exactly like Kelvin Klingons. In fact everything about the show looked like it takes place in the Kelvin universe.

Klingons are bumpy-headed creatures rambling endlessly about honor. These are bumpy-headed creatures rambling endlessly about honor. Sounds like the guys I saw in TOS movie and TNG era Trek from 1984-2004. They have always been bumpy-headed, even if you couldn't resolve that feature on 1960s TV resolution.

FFS, when do we stop letting a make-up based production budget limitation determine what is canon?
 
I think it feels like a reboot but only a reboot of "TOS." Alot of the way the characters talked and told the story felt very much like Berman era Trek..

Jason
Couldn't disagree more.

In 'Berman Era' Star Trek you'd never see the Captain and First Officer so far apart of some issues (without alien control being involved.) It would also be clearer which decision was the 'right' decision. There was way more tension between the crew as well then you'd ever see in 'Berman Era' Star Trek too.

For example:

- Had the 'unknown object' sequence have been in TNG - Data or someone would have 'remodulated' the sensors (to some Particle of the week) to be able to get a 'clearer view' of the object.

- Had they sent someone out and that character gotten radiation poisoning; one shot from a Hypospray would have cured it and there'd be no tension about her going up to the Bridge injured.
 
Klingons are bumpy-headed creatures rambling endlessly about honor. These are bumpy-headed creatures rambling endlessly about honor. Sounds like the guys I saw in TOS movie and TNG era Trek from 1984-2004. They have always been bumpy-headed, even if you couldn't resolve that feature on 1960s TV resolution.

FFS, when do we stop letting a make-up based production budget limitation determine what is canon?

The Klingons of this era should have smooth heads and look like humans, as established in DS9's Trial and Tribble-ations. FFS when do we start letting dialogue from the actual shows determine what is canon?
 
Couldn't disagree more.

In 'Berman Era' Star Trek you'd never see the Captain and First Officer so far apart of some issues (without alien control being involved.) It would also be clearer which decision was the 'right' decision. There was way more tension between the crew as well then you'd ever see in 'Berman Era' Star Trek too.

For example:

- Had the 'unknown object' sequence have been in TNG - Data or someone would have 'remodulated' the sensors (to some Particle of the week) to be able to get a 'clearer view' of the object.

- Had they sent someone out and that character gotten radiation poisoning; one shot from a Hypospray would have cured it and there'd be no tension about her going up to the Bridge injured.


I don't know. I think we could have seen any of that stuff done on DS9 or even Voyager once Pillar left. The language did soften once he was gone and started to feel more modern. Granted DS9 had some non-starfleet characters to help get away with some of that stuff and Voyager was never consistent enough to really know what might happen. Janeway in one ep might argue the importance of federation values and in the next week toss the prime directive aside because she fells like it was the moral thing to do.

Jason
 
Not a reboot.......it is however 2017.

Which only means that sometimes you can only do a reboot if you also want to be edgy and new as well, Sometimes two concepts don't work well toegether. It would be like doing a cooking show were the head cook was a monkey. You could try it but it won't look like a cooking show.

Jason
 
Which only means that sometimes you can only do a reboot if you also want to be edgy and new as well, Sometimes two concepts don't work well toegether. It would be like doing a cooking show were the head cook was a monkey. You could try it but it won't look like a cooking show.

Jason
I have know idea WTF you are talking about.
 
In the Trek verse, we already had the Eugenics Wars in the 1990s. The Trek verse always seemed like a separate reality that doesn't need to connect with our modern reality.

Nope, VOY retconned that. No clue where it got moved to, but it was not going on in 1996.
 
No, it's the Prime timeline, thankfully.
I've enjoyed the JJ films as "popcorn Summer movies" but I don't want that universe on TV.
 
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