I saw it as "OriGaMi."
Do the events of Star Trek:OGaM fit?
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I saw it as "OriGaMi."
Stonn is definitely not married to T'Pring in the "prime" universe at the end of OGaM. Watch the ending and you'll understand.
I did really like the ending, I just wish that the actor had been playing a different Vulcan than Stonn. The developments with Stonn and Uhura were just weird from what we know of Stonn.
I did really like the ending, I just wish that the actor had been playing a different Vulcan than Stonn. The developments with Stonn and Uhura were just weird from what we know of Stonn.
Spoilers for everything!!
In the Trek novel universe Captain Harriman has stepped down as captain of the Enterprise-B and Demora Sulu replaces him. This might actually synch up with Harriman stepping down at the end of Gods and Men.
Novels set earlier, like The Captain’s Daughter don’t clash and actually slot nicely between the cowardly useless Harriman from Generations and his slightly older (and competent) self in Gods and Men.
Uhura (who retired at the end of Gods) and Chekov are both still alive and active in Starfleet in novels set just before Nemesis – making them about the same age as Admiral Archer must have been in the new Star Trek.
So the answer is…not really. But it doesn’t really matter: I loved Uhura’s happy ending at the end of Gods and Men (she marries Stonn in the prime universe), but I also really liked Spock’s World (where Stonn’s death in important in a way I can’t remember offhand). Besides, arguing over which ‘actually’ happened is silly – they were both erased by Nero in the new Trek film anyway ;-)
In the Trek novel universe Captain Harriman has stepped down as captain of the Enterprise-B and Demora Sulu replaces him. This might actually synch up with Harriman stepping down at the end of Gods and Men.
Novels set earlier, like The Captain’s Daughter don’t clash and actually slot nicely between the cowardly useless Harriman from Generations and his slightly older (and competent) self in Gods and Men.
Uhura (who retired at the end of Gods) and Chekov are both still alive and active in Starfleet in novels set just before Nemesis – making them about the same age as Admiral Archer must have been in the new Star Trek.
So the answer is…not really. But it doesn’t really matter: I loved Uhura’s happy ending at the end of Gods and Men (she marries Stonn in the prime universe), but I also really liked Spock’s World (where Stonn’s death in important in a way I can’t remember offhand). Besides, arguing over which ‘actually’ happened is silly – they were both erased by Nero in the new Trek film anyway ;-)
Oh, come on, "cowardly useless Harriman"? That's hardly fair. The John Harriman of Generations was an entirely competent officer. He made several quick, intelligent rescue suggestions that would probably have worked if he'd had a completed, fully equipped starship to carry them out. He was a little overwhelmed by the situation, having Kirk and the press looking over his shoulder, but he didn't do anything wrong. He made good decisions; he was just a victim of Starfleet's bad decision to send the ship on a publicity-stunt shakedown without its full complement of equipment.
Just because there's a person named Admiral Archer who likes beagles, that doesn't mean it's Jonathan Archer. It could be his son, daughter, grandson, granddaughter.
No, they were not. Nothing was "erased." The new and old timelines coexist.
Actually, Chris, it is Jonathan Archer, as this thread indicates. Or at least that was the scriptwriter's intent, and unless it's contradicted onscreen there's no reason to suggest otherwise right?
Good on you for defending Capt. Harriman.
Poor guy gets a bum rap (and I really need to get ahold of Serpents Among the Ruins...)http://http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=93952
Good on you for defending Capt. Harriman.
Poor guy gets a bum rap (and I really need to get ahold of Serpents Among the Ruins...)http://http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=93952
The trailer made me burst out giggling. And not in the good way.
I just watched it for the first time yesterday. I enjoyed it. Some of the FX weren't great as was some of the acting, but overall it was a moving story, and a true valentine to Trek fans, unlike ENT's TATV.
I wish it could be made canon. I thought that Alan Ruck and Koenig gave the best performances. Along with JG Hertzler, who created another awesome Klingon. Nichelle Nichols finally got to give us the Uhura we never really got to see on TOS and not enough of in the movies. Chase Masterson was quite delectable as Xela. Garrett Wang was scummy enough and Gary Graham did fine. I also enjoyed Tuvok and Uhura's friendship.
The marriage to Stonn thing was interesting. Did they have any interactions in Amok Time-I don't think they did-or in the novels? I wonder where that came from. Cirroc Lofton smirked a bit too much for a Vulcan, but it was good to see him again.
I think Charlie Evans made for an interesting villain as did Gary Mitchell, though I don't think Evans had quite enough edge or mania. BTW, what did they call Mitchell, the Kuray (sp) Prime? Was that right? What did that mean, and is that a reference from TOS?
I wish it could be made canon. I thought that Alan Ruck and Koenig gave the best performances. Along with JG Hertzler, who created another awesome Klingon. Nichelle Nichols finally got to give us the Uhura we never really got to see on TOS and not enough of in the movies. Chase Masterson was quite delectable as Xela. Garrett Wang was scummy enough and Gary Graham did fine. I also enjoyed Tuvok and Uhura's friendship.
The marriage to Stonn thing was interesting. Did they have any interactions in Amok Time-I don't think they did-or in the novels? I wonder where that came from. Cirroc Lofton smirked a bit too much for a Vulcan, but it was good to see him again.
I think Charlie Evans made for an interesting villain as did Gary Mitchell, though I don't think Evans had quite enough edge or mania. BTW, what did they call Mitchell, the Kuray (sp) Prime? Was that right? What did that mean, and is that a reference from TOS?
