Do the events of Star Trek:OGaM fit?

[Freman]

Just wondering if the events of ST:OGaM fit with any Star Trek literature that are tied with the current, more 'tied together' Star Trek EU. Like the Lost Era stuff, I guess. There are books in that series that tell stories about characters in ST: OGaM.

(Haven't read any of the new stuff, except the first 2 Titan books, so I'm clueless).

Just curious.

 

[DimesDan]

Firstly, what is Star Trek OGeM and secondly, when has the European Union had anything to do with Star Trek?

 

[Christopher]

Are you talking about the fan film Of Gods and Men? Pro authors can't reference a fan film any more than we can read or reference fan fiction.

 

[Freman]

Yeah, I know you guys aren't allowed to make reference to the film in the books. I was just curious if there was anything in the books that specifically contradicts the film, or vice versa.

(Just ordered the rest of the Titan books, btw. Can't wait to read yours. heard nothing but good stuff about them )

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Are you talking about the fan film Of Gods and Men? Pro authors can't reference a fan film any more than we can read or reference fan fiction.

I thought Starship Exeter had been referenced in a novel or two. I could be completely mistaken, but I was pretty certain.

 

[William Leisner]

Am I the only one who initially read that title as Star Trek: ORGasM?

 

[Freman]

Am I the only one who initially read that title as Star Trek: ORGasM?

LOL!

 

[Scott Pearson]

Am I the only one who initially read that title as Star Trek: ORGasM?

That's the pilot episode of the new Star Trek: After Dark HBO series . . . to seek out new life forms . . . and give them hot oil massages with happy endings.

 

[Christopher]

Or is it Star Trek: Ogham? "Space: the Celtic frontier."

 

[shanejayell]

Am I the only one who initially read that title as Star Trek: ORGasM?

That's the pilot episode of the new Star Trek: After Dark HBO series . . . to seek out new life forms . . . and give them hot oil massages with happy endings.

Starring T'Pol probably.

Or SEven of Nine.

 

[Mike Farley]

Am I the only one who initially read that title as Star Trek: ORGasM?

That's the pilot episode of the new Star Trek: After Dark HBO series . . . to seek out new life forms . . . and give them hot oil massages with happy endings.

Starring T'Pol probably.

Or SEven of Nine.

Why not BOTH?

 

[Freman]

I think this thread has been officially derailed.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Are you talking about the fan film Of Gods and Men? Pro authors can't reference a fan film any more than we can read or reference fan fiction.

Christopher, a question, because I was thinking about this on the train into work this morning.

Yes, I will admit that it's not wise for an author to read fanfic. There's the case of Marion Zimmer Bradley's scrapped Darkover novel. Then there are persistent rumors about a fanfic incident involving Anne Rice.

But then there are authors who do read fanfic. I'm not sure if J.K. Rowling actually read it, or if she merely approved of it, but she has made positive noises about it, so she's more than aware of it. And there are some Doctor Who authors that have referenced fanfic in their Doctor Who novels like Kate Orman and Dave Stone. Hell, Vampire Science was a sorta sequel to a fanvid that was written by the novel's co-author. Then, the Nick Briggs Doctor (from a series of fan-audio adventures from the early 1980's) appeared on two occasions in the Doctor Who Magazine comic strip.

And I'd be pretty certain that some of the early Star Trek novels had their origins in the Star Trek fanfic community of the time, and may even have drawn upon concepts then current in fandom.

So to say that an author can't read or reference fanfic or fanvids isn't exactly true, is it? Maybe an author shouldn't read or reference fanfic or fanvids, but the truth is that fanfic has influenced official fiction in various franchises and probably will continue to do so into the future.

 

[Christopher]

I don't know about that. All I know is that I stay away from the stuff.

 

[Ayelbourne]

Am I the only one who initially read that title as Star Trek: ORGasM?

Scribbler, you've got a very smuddy mind!

 

[Sci]

Are you talking about the fan film Of Gods and Men? Pro authors can't reference a fan film any more than we can read or reference fan fiction.

Christopher, a question, because I was thinking about this on the train into work this morning.

Yes, I will admit that it's not wise for an author to read fanfic. There's the case of Marion Zimmer Bradley's scrapped Darkover novel. Then there are persistent rumors about a fanfic incident involving Anne Rice.

But then there are authors who do read fanfic. I'm not sure if J.K. Rowling actually read it, or if she merely approved of it, but she has made positive noises about it, so she's more than aware of it. And there are some Doctor Who authors that have referenced fanfic in their Doctor Who novels like Kate Orman and Dave Stone. Hell, Vampire Science was a sorta sequel to a fanvid that was written by the novel's co-author. Then, the Nick Briggs Doctor (from a series of fan-audio adventures from the early 1980's) appeared on two occasions in the Doctor Who Magazine comic strip.

And I'd be pretty certain that some of the early Star Trek novels had their origins in the Star Trek fanfic community of the time, and may even have drawn upon concepts then current in fandom.

So to say that an author can't read or reference fanfic or fanvids isn't exactly true, is it? Maybe an author shouldn't read or reference fanfic or fanvids, but the truth is that fanfic has influenced official fiction in various franchises and probably will continue to do so into the future.

As I've understood it from how numerous Trek authors and creators in other fandoms have said, it's not that they can't read fanfic or whatnot, but that most of them don't want to in order to avoid any potential litigation, frivolous or otherwise.

 

[Freman]

On a slightly different note:

Does anyone know the answer to my question?

 

[DarKush]

I haven't seen the entire film, but from what I've seen, I don't think Of Gods and Men does fit with Trek literature, particularly the emerging expanded universes of the various 'relaunched' series. That's not to say that it couldn't fit or be made to fit, since it is something of an alternate timeline kind of story.

 

[borgboy]

I think some of the things doen with Stonn would contradict his life in the novels, specificaly that iirc Stonn has been shown to still be married to T'Pring in the 24th century.

 

[Freman]

But isn't Stonn in OGaM only in the alternate timeline parts of the film?

I'm mostly concerned with the parts of the movie that take place in the main timeline.