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Do people still believe in Hell?

Belinda Carlisle informed us that heaven is a place on earth. In my experience, so is hell. My preference would be for Nirvana but I think my karma needs fixing. It's more of a clown karma where all the doors keep falling off.
 
Then all the suck ups hit 'like' and it becomes weird. Like mean girls or something.
Let's see all the suck ups pile on ;)
If the Like system wasn't there, they'd be replying to you to express the same thought, which is something you've just been complaining about for the past several pages. So no more insulting the people clicking the Like button, okay?
 
Basically it's a self-directed ceremonial magickal practice with Satan as the central deity. I discovered it through Chaos Magick and Thelema (I was dating a woman who was a Thelemite at the time). I believed Satan, or Lucifer -- I generally equated the two -- embodied individuality, free thought, and self-directed spirituality. I didn't even like to say I "worshiped' Satan because Satan found supplication or worship to devalue the individual. Instead I said I "revered" Satan. There was no selling your soul to the Devil (your soul was your true self and you had an inherent right to it), no animal sacrifice, nothing like that. I liked a particular book (which I can't find anymore) that described a spiritual journey whereby a Satanist could spiritually travel to a separate plane of existence that was totally untouched by god. Essentially, God was a tyrant, Satan was the liberator. Your spiritual journey was truly your own, and the goal was to be liberated from any spiritual restraint or confines, thus realizing your true self. That's the long and short of it.

I don't believe that stuff anymore. Haven't for many years. Now I believe that when you die, you're dead, the end. Throughout my life I've experimented with all kinds of things: raised Catholic, became atheist in high school, converted to Methodism in college, dabbled in Hinduism, then was a Satanist, then a Wiccan, then an atheist. I liked to explore. Nowadays I find religion pretty dull. I'm satisfied with a shrug, an "I dunno, but probably nothing," and enjoying life as I see fit. Still feel some sympathy for the devil though, especially in discussions like this thread.

Satanism was a bit too confrontational and aggressive for me. These days I find a lot of inspiration and comfort in nature, particularly birdwatching. That's where I experience what some people might call "spirituality." It was a phase I went through. I'm glad I did, but now I'm over it.
Thank you for sharing. That is quite a religious and spiritual journey.

On a more personal note from me, I still consider my spiritual journey to be my own, even as a Christian. I find many of the assumptions about God, and Hell, in contemporary culture to be a mix of doctrine, tradition and interpretation of the Bible. But, I'll admit that I have met few people who have the beliefs about Hell described in this thread, Christian or not.

Very enlightening to see these different experiences described.
 
I don't think the latter is a fair characterization of what is happening. People like posts because they agree with something, but that does not make them "suck ups". I don't think it is anybody's intention to gang up on you personally. Calling people "suck-ups" strikes me as unnecessarily rude and ad hominem.

I completely whole heartedly and unreservedly agree with whatever this post says.

Might read it later
 
By the way, the way I use likes, likes are not necessarily an endorsement. I like posts that I agree with, but I also like posts that I only partially agree with, even if the post contains things that I definitely don't agree with. Occasionally, I like a post simply because I value it having been posted at all, even though I actually agree with very little of it. People have opined before, sometimes in jest, that the board could use an "agree" button also.
 
By the way, the way I use likes, likes are not necessarily an endorsement. I like posts that I agree with, but I also like posts that I only partially agree with, even if the post contains things that I definitely don't agree with. Occasionally, I like a post simply because I value it having been posted at all, even though I actually agree with very little of it. People have opined before, sometimes in jest, that the board could use an "agree" button also.
This is exactly how I use the like button too.
 
On balance the mods probably do get a higher ratio of likes to their posts then average, but not necessarily more then the most popular posters. If we take likes as being an objective measure of popularity this needn't be any evidence of "sucking up". On the contrary, it's almost certainly part and parcel of the reason they were selected in the first place.

Remember that first and foremost they are posters, posters who have at some point been deemed suitable of a little extra responsibility.

By definition that requires their posting be consistently above par for the areas they moderate and thus likely to be generating above average likes anyway.

Chicken and the egg....

Does being a mod gain you sycophantic likes or does being a strong poster gain you a mod position?

The "most likes" list puts @Locutus of Bored (a mod)at number one, but @BillJ (a regular user) comes third with a similar ratio of likes to posts.

@{ Emilia } is second place for total score but again ratio wise plenty of non mods match her at the 60% ball park. I've no doubt there are people getting closer to parity, although I've not the time to sit and poke around right now.

So yes some mods do get more than the average number of likes, but not to the extent that it cannot be explained by strong posting or, for that matter, matched by non moderating posters
 
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