Do other Sci-Fi Franchises Exist Within The Trek Universe?

[Triskelion]

Star Trek is referenced numerous times in both Stargate shows.

General O'Neil asks for phasers. "The Other Guys" talk about dressing as Klingons & Vulcans for conventions, and mention Roddenberry by name. Shepherd tells McKay he won't be naming the new space ship "Enterprise". Not to mention the Gouauld-Trill knockoffs. Oh, but that gets into territory of outright creative theft!

I think you missed the point of the OP.

Actually I didn't miss the point of the OP. I left my main point inferred, which perhaps was more easily missed. My point being, that if Trek was already referenced in SG1/A, then SG1/A couldn't very well be referenced by Trek, without a kind of 4th wall breakdown; similar in effect to what would have happened had DS9 been entirely a dream of Benny Russell; it would have been an unnecessarily jarring divergence from the rest of the franchise. Something like when things from the TrekBBS are referenced in Trek lit. It will take one out of the story universe and unnecessarily remind one that they are in a fiction. Deadly for fiction. Fiction has to seem truer than reality.

Now you know why I left it inferred! :P

 

[Elder Knight]

Didn't the 1932 Frankenstein turn up on an Enterprise show?

 

[Jack Bauer]

I'd say that in the Trek universe there was probably a very popular sci-fi space show on in the 60's. Call it Star Voyages or something. Every other sci-fi franchise we have now would be there as well of course.

 

[-Brett-]

I have read too many to remember which title but in one of the novels Sulu is watching an old movie in the archives and when Chekov asks about it the description is quite clearly Star Wars.

On that note, the creatures from the Alien movies appear in a post-finale DS9 book as part of a holodeck simulation. They're not explicitly referred to as such, but the description fits them perfectly.

 

[HIj'Qa]

worf and K'Ehlyr battle Skeletor from the He-Man and the Masters of the Universe television series on the holodeck before getting busy making babies.

 

[Luke Lightsaber]

Lol!

Well, it's not Sci Fi, but Westerns are still popular in the 24th Century.

 

[erastus25]

worf and K'Ehlyr battle Skeletor from the He-Man and the Masters of the Universe television series on the holodeck before getting busy making babies.

HAHA! I always wondered if that was an intentional reference. Glad I'm not the only one that thought so.

 

[Red Ranger]

I think the evidence is plentiful that much of the fiction in our world exists in the ST world, including science fiction. The only thing that comes to my mind that you all haven't mentioned is in the TNG ep Datalore. When talking about Data's brain, the concept of the positronic brain is mentioned as the brainchild of Isaac Asimov, although the dialogue is along the lines that Data's creator, Noonian Soong, "made Asimov's dream of a positronic brain a reality." That can either be interpreted as a direct reference to author Isaac Asimov, or some scientist named Asimov who postulated the idea. I tend to think it's the former. -- RR

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'd say that in the Trek universe there was probably a very popular sci-fi space show on in the 60's. Call it Star Voyages or something. Every other sci-fi franchise we have now would be there as well of course.

I think it was called Galaxy Quest.

 

[Dayton3]

I'd say that in the Trek universe there was probably a very popular sci-fi space show on in the 60's. Call it Star Voyages or something. Every other sci-fi franchise we have now would be there as well of course.

I think it was called Galaxy Quest.

Galaxy Quest I think would've had a much more 70s feel to it.

The clips of it made me think of Space:1999

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'd say that in the Trek universe there was probably a very popular sci-fi space show on in the 60's. Call it Star Voyages or something. Every other sci-fi franchise we have now would be there as well of course.

I think it was called Galaxy Quest.

Galaxy Quest I think would've had a much more 70s feel to it.

The clips of it made me think of Space:1999

Sure, in our Universe/

 

[Dayton3]

You have to remember that in the Star Trek universe, technology was considerably more advanced in the late 20th century than it has been in our universe.

Remember that in the Trek Universe you would've had to have had large scale human genetic engineering available in the late 1950s to early 1960s in order to have Khan and the rest wage the Eugenics Wars from 1992 to 1996.

It is possible that the special effects and production standards available in the Trek Universe in 1966 allowed for ST:TNG type of special effects for television shows even back then.

 

[Nerdius Maximus]

Let's hope not.

 

[erastus25]

You have to remember that in the Star Trek universe, technology was considerably more advanced in the late 20th century than it has been in our universe.

Remember that in the Trek Universe you would've had to have had large scale human genetic engineering available in the late 1950s to early 1960s in order to have Khan and the rest wage the Eugenics Wars from 1992 to 1996.

It is possible that the special effects and production standards available in the Trek Universe in 1966 allowed for ST:TNG type of special effects for television shows even back then.

For all we know in 1000 years archaeologists will stumble across TOS-R and decide we had that level of Special fx skills in the '60s.

 

[ScottDS]

Every known television science fiction franchise also has a book series to go with it.

And we know they read books in the 24th century.

Even if we accept these premises as true (and I'm not sure that the first one is supported by evidence), it does not follow deductively that any books in the 24th century would be tie-ins to science-fiction franchises.

Having said that, we know that they watched the movie The Day the Earth Stood Still in the Enterprise episode "The Catwalk," so obviously some of the science fiction we enjoy in our own universe exists in the Trek universe as well. It seems reasonable to assume that some of the TV franchises would have existed as well.

So in the Star Trek Universe, it's safe to assume that Robert Wise didn't direct Star Trek: The Motion Picture. And if he didn't, what did he direct in the late 70s? I'm picturing Galaxy Quest: The Motion Picture instead.

 

[alicelouise]

The earliest episode of Babylon 5 had a Looney Tunes cartoon clip. It was Daffy Duck referencing Duck Dodgers in the 24th 1/2 century! Of course B5 was a Warner Bros franchise. We could have Pavel Chekhov referencing B5 and saying, "Keptin, slava bogu, we don't have the Psy Cops! Vat an awful character!"

 

[Kryton]

Daffy Duck is one of Garibaldi's favorite things...he had a picture of him on his wall, I do believe. (Though it may have been a framed towel...hard to say for certain.)

And Delenn seemed to get a kick out of watching him as well.

 

[tobindax]

Stargate did something clever on it, they created a whole copy of their own series inside the series (with changed names and less quality) (basing it on an alien fan that subconsciously knew what was going on). Good laughs too.

 

[Kryton]

What are you saying...that "Wormhole Xtreme" isn't REAL?

 

[nx1701g]

In an episode of Knight Rider there is a reference to a Doctor Jackson Roykirk working for NASA. Doctor Roykirk was the man who designed and built Nomad in TOS.