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Do Marvel's characters work better in movies than DC's?

I liked the first Fantastic 4 movie. The tone felt like it was ripped from the 60s comics. I never understood the overwhelmingly negative reaction towards it.

I don't recall much from the second one other than I thought the story seemed rushed.
 
I liked the first Fantastic 4 movie. The tone felt like it was ripped from the 60s comics. I never understood the overwhelmingly negative reaction towards it.

Two words: Doctor Doom

Personally Jessica Alba was a terrible Susan Storm and The Thing costume wasn't very good.
 
I'm a fan of the FF, but not of the movies. Yes, they're "only" comic book characters, but the movies were too jokey and simplistic to me, especially the first one. The second one was a bit better, but ironically did worse at the box office. The FF themselves were portrayed fairly well (except for Reed who's less meek and more alpha male in the comics), and they missed the whole point of Doom's character.
 
I liked the first Fantastic 4 movie. The tone felt like it was ripped from the 60s comics. I never understood the overwhelmingly negative reaction towards it.

Two words: Doctor Doom

Personally Jessica Alba was a terrible Susan Storm and The Thing costume wasn't very good.

Oh, yeah...Doctor Doom. Talk about ruining a perfectly good villain. Doctor Doom is NOT a wise-cracking villain.
 
Well, let's be fair here. Doom's introductory story was having the FF go back in time to steal Bluebeard's treasure for him.
 
I'm a fan of the FF, but not of the movies. Yes, they're "only" comic book characters, but the movies were too jokey and simplistic to me, especially the first one. The second one was a bit better, but ironically did worse at the box office. The FF themselves were portrayed fairly well (except for Reed who's less meek and more alpha male in the comics), and they missed the whole point of Doom's character.

This is a huge issue in movies. I can accept alternate versions of characters but you need to get the essence right. The first two X-Men movies, for example, did a great job on the spirit of the characters (Storm probably being the exception) while altering a great deal of their back stories.

Superman Returns failed, in part, because Superman's personality was completely wrong. Dr. Doom, similarly, was just completely wrong in both films.
 
Superman Returns failed, in part, because Superman's personality was completely wrong.

Nuh-uh! You're wrong!

:p

I thought he was nuanced and vulnerable. :snob:

And you note how I carefully avoided the Lex Luthor thread bomb. That's because I'm a gentleman.
 
I don't know if Supes's personality was wrong in the film necessarily. He just became more introspective given the events of the movie which is something we really hadn't seen before. Of course, YMMV.

He was a stalker. That whole eavesdropping scene just creeped me out.

That's par for the course with nearly every Superman incarnation. Just re-watch the first episode of Lois and Clark. Clark hovers outside Lois's window overhearing her entire conversation with her sister. This was, of course, after he met her earlier that same day. To me, that's much creepier than anything he did in SR (which, given the film, there is at least some understandable, if misguided, context for why Supes when to Lois home).
 
The only reason Superman Returns didn't make more money was because Superman didn't punch anyone. :ack:
 
He was a stalker. That whole eavesdropping scene just creeped me out.

He did worse in the original Superman. In one scene he used his X-ray vision to find out what color Lois's panties were and then he examined her lungs for cancer. He also used his super hearing to eavesdrop in several conversations.
 
Superman Returns failed, in part, because Superman's personality was completely wrong.

Nuh-uh! You're wrong!

:p

I thought he was nuanced and vulnerable. :snob:

And you note how I carefully avoided the Lex Luthor thread bomb. That's because I'm a gentleman.

He was a stalker. That whole eavesdropping scene just creeped me out.

He's Superman. He eavesdrops on everybody. He also looks at your naked body. And, because he is a friend to life, checks to see if you have cancer.

And yes I know this is dorkily serious, but I just don't think it's fair to apply normal privacy standards to Superman.

If you want privacy from humans, you build a wall. If you want privacy from Superman, you built the wall out of two pieces of lead with melamine sponge between it. If you don't, you've acquiesced, in the same sense that if you built a glass house, you can't complain when you're arrested for a sex offense the first time you take a shower.
 
He also scoped out the contents of her purse, FWIW. (And I don't remember any super-hearing eavesdropping in the Donner film...think that was SR.)
 
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