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Do fans want the prime timeline back? Part 2: Poll edition.

Do fans want the prime timeline back?


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The Apple probably holds some sort of record for killing redshirts--by explosive rock, poison thorn, lightning bolt, and being hit on the head with a club!

And you notice this is the first time Kirk has another group of redshirts sent down after the first ones dies just to make sure they still have expendable crewmen around.
 
The Apple probably holds some sort of record for killing redshirts--by explosive rock, poison thorn, lightning bolt, and being hit on the head with a club!

And you notice this is the first time Kirk has another group of redshirts sent down after the first ones dies just to make sure they still have expendable crewmen around.
Well, yea, protection for the regulars and semi-regulars :D
 
Nothing in any of those clips is as gratuitous, unnecessary and disgusting as the end of "Conspiracy" where Picard and Riker destroy Remmick's head.


Gratuitous? Disgusting?? Those are hardly the terms I'd use. Hell, these days I'd hesitate to even use the word "graphic" to describe that scene.

Yes. Today it doesn't look like much but back in the day we didn't really see that stuff on television shows.
Actually, there was a lot worse on TV at the time. This was the same time Friday the 13th: The Series was airing and, only a few years later, Freddy's Nightmare's aired. These shows brought us some of the goriest scenes ever shown on television.
 
Gratuitous? Disgusting?? Those are hardly the terms I'd use. Hell, these days I'd hesitate to even use the word "graphic" to describe that scene.

Yes. Today it doesn't look like much but back in the day we didn't really see that stuff on television shows.
Actually, there was a lot worse on TV at the time. This was the same time Friday the 13th: The Series was airing and, only a few years later, Freddy's Nightmare's aired. These shows brought us some of the goriest scenes ever shown on television.

Plus, of course, SCANNERS was already out on VHS, which is kinda the gold-standard for exploding head scenes. :)
 
You know? What can you do. Grab a hold of a hot member of the opposite sex and thank god you're alive like Chekov does, might be a good start, come to think of it.

I mock Chekov, but, you know, I have an autographed photo of Celeste Yarnall framed in my office, only a few feet away from where I'm typing this . . . :)

One of the things I liked about Landon was she could Kirk-fu it just like the boys.
 
You know? What can you do. Grab a hold of a hot member of the opposite sex and thank god you're alive like Chekov does, might be a good start, come to think of it.

I mock Chekov, but, you know, I have an autographed photo of Celeste Yarnall framed in my office, only a few feet away from where I'm typing this . . . :)

One of the things I liked about Landon was she could Kirk-fu it just like the boys.

Yeah, for a few minutes there, she turns into Emma Peel!
 
I looked up Yvonne Craig once, and found out that she, too, was in an Elvis Presley movie. Not that this is any selling point on me, his music is just ... well ... it was a Fifties Fad and that's cool. He should've left it at that, before he let himself bloat out in the Seventies and then die on the toilet. But I will give him this much credit: he definitely had an eye for the Ladies of Star Trek!
 
I looked up Yvonne Craig once, and found out that she, too, was in an Elvis Presley movie.

The one about the World's Fair in Seattle, right? As I recall, she has a good dance routine near the beginning of the movie . . . .
 
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My motivations are right on cue, they're just not what you and others can accept.

I don't care overmuch what your motivations are or aren't. I think you should just stop pretending you know anything about anyone else's when it's obvious that you don't.

If the people can't accept the current era, it's not my problem or anybody else's

Correct. In fact it's probably not something you should concern yourself about at all, since someone's not liking a thing you like isn't a personal judgment of you and you can in all probability learn to encounter it without being a giant vagina about things.

(If I judge correctly from your nick that you're a South African, think about it this way: if Madiba could manage reconciliation of a country on the verge of war, reconciliation with people who just happen to prefer the older versions of something you like should be a piece of cake. :bolian:)

I'm from Canada, actually (I like the name because of its power) and what I said, still stands; these fans are treating the franchise as a religion, when it's just a TV show, and they are acting in a certain way that I find to be fanatical because of the new movies. Anybody else could see that and say that, but they haven't, so it might as well be me.

If they like the older shows, that's fine and good, but they have to realize that what they remember about it is a selective memory (and has been disproved by others here.) Star Trek is an action adventure show at its core, and for the current franchise runner(s) to deny this would be foolish and end up destroying it. Thankfully, they're not listening to these fans, and the franchise is doing right, and making new fans, not deluded ones stuck in the past who can't progress. As for the comparisions to Mandela, you're the one who's really reaching now.:vulcan:
 
Dude. That's the King of whom you speak. He appeared increasingly prosperous and died on his throne, thank you very much.
Kind of hard to believe, seeing pictures of him in that condition, that he'd had most of the hottest women of his day.

The one about the World's Fair in Seattle, right? As I recall, she has a good dance routine near the beginning of the movie . . . .
You've just won the Christmas Turkey! A quick search reveals that Yvonne starred in roles with Elvis Presley in two films:
"It Happened at the World's Fair" and "Kissin' Cousins."
Celeste Yarnall starred in the Elvis Presley vehicle:
"Live a Little, Love a Little"
 
^And Laurel Goodwin starred in an Elvis movie as well (can't remember which one).

EDIT: It's Girls Girls Girls.
 
The one about the World's Fair in Seattle, right? As I recall, she has a good dance routine near the beginning of the movie . . . .
You've just won the Christmas Turkey! A quick search reveals that Yvonne starred in roles with Elvis Presley in two films:
"It Happened at the World's Fair" and "Kissin' Cousins."
Celeste Yarnall starred in the Elvis Presley vehicle:
"Live a Little, Love a Little"

I tried to watch the World's Fair one, mainly because I attended the same World's Fair as a child, but couldn't get through it. Yvonne is cute in the dance number, though.
 
I'm from Canada, actually (I like the name because of its power) and what I said

... is still kinda cray-cray, just a bit. Someone not liking a thing you like doesn't make them the equivalent of a religious fanatic, and repeating that won't make it true or relevant to anything. To put it another way: if you insist upon seeing crazies and fanatics everywhere, it's worth holding up a second and wondering if maybe the problem isn't that everyone else is crazy, if you know what I mean.
 
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I tried to watch the World's Fair one, mainly because I attended the same World's Fair as a child, but couldn't get through it.
Yes, you mentioned having hailed from Washington state, before. It sounds like you miss your old stomping grounds - why did you move from there - if one may know? The Seattle music scene was awesome in the Nineties, with Nirvana and all the rest ... sounds like it's a really cool place!
 
I don't think Greg's part of the grunge generation. ;)

Indeed. I left Seattle in 1987, so I was gone before grunge, Starbucks, and Microsoft . . .

To answer the question, though, it was a career move. David Hartwell (who was the original Trek editor at Pocket Books, btw) convinced me that if I was really serious about this whole science-fiction writing and editing thing I needed to move to NYC where the action was. (I believe the phrase "wasting your life busing tables in Seattle" may have been involved.) It actually took me two or three years to work up the nerve to make the Big Move, but I've never regretted it . . . although I do miss the Northwest sometimes.
 
Dude. That's the King of whom you speak. He appeared increasingly prosperous and died on his throne, thank you very much.
Kind of hard to believe, seeing pictures of him in that condition, that he'd had most of the hottest women of his day.

The one about the World's Fair in Seattle, right? As I recall, she has a good dance routine near the beginning of the movie . . . .
You've just won the Christmas Turkey! A quick search reveals that Yvonne starred in roles with Elvis Presley in two films:
"It Happened at the World's Fair" and "Kissin' Cousins."
Celeste Yarnall starred in the Elvis Presley vehicle:
"Live a Little, Love a Little"

He didn't age well, largely due to lifestyle issues, but if you look at Elvis in his prime, it's very easy to believe he did so well with the ladies. Young Elvis was gorgeous.
 
Re: shocking or violent scenes in Trek -- For my money, nothing Abrams' Trek has done thus far comes even close to Commander Sonak's agonized squealing as the transporter forms him into a twisted writhing mass.
 
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