Discworld TV series in production

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  1. TheGodBen

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    Source: http://www.discworldmonthly.co.uk/dwm0167extra.php

    Now this in an unexpected development, a police-procedural centring on the Ankh-Morpork City Watch featuring original stories each week. I could be fantastic. It could be crap.

    Personally, I'm cautiously optimistic. The adaptation of TCOM was fairly crap, largely due to the horrible miscasting of the two lead roles, but I thought that Going Postal was great. The casting of Vimes will be vital as he will presumably be the lead character, and I'd love it if they could get Charles Dance back to play Vetinari, he was almost perfect in Going Postal.
     
  2. captcalhoun

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    cautious 'yay' from me.
     
  3. Reverend

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    Interesting, I did wonder if the Sky One minis were holding back on the watch books. Not that I care about continuity or anything--I mean, it's a rather pointless concern with wizards and the history monks always mucking about--but I wonder if this will take place at any point in the existing storyline or will they just start more or less from scratch so they're free to adapt old stories to suit the new format?
     
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    They were discussions last year between the Beeb and Pratchett, but these fell through when the Beeb insisted on final say over the series bible - in other words, they could futz with the characters if they wanted to, which Sir Terry was disinclined to allow (and I don't blame him).
     
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    Sounds great! I only just got into in the last few months, and I've loved every book I've read so far. City Watch is the series I've read the most, so it'd be exciting to see it brought to life on screen.

    I also got the Colour of Magic DVD and thoroughly enjoyed it. What are the other two mini-series productions?
     
  6. TheGodBen

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    It would be interesting if they tried to incorporate the novels into the series somehow. The premier could be an abridged version of Guards! Guards! and the rest of the series could be episodic fair, then if it's brought back for a second series it could begin with Men at Arms. Basically, what I'm saying is that I want an adaptation of Men at Arms. ;)

    Probably not though, I imagine they'll pick a point with all the characters after the most recent novel and work from there.

    Too right, there's no way that Terry should sacrifice his creation to the whims of TV execs. Remember when he was in talks for a movie version of Mort and the American backers wanted to remove Death from the story? :rolleyes: I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to make Carrot the lead because he's more heroic than Vimes, or if they tried to make Angua into a damsel in distress every week.

    Hogfather was the first, which I thought was surprisingly good due to my very low expectations. TCOM was next, which I think was horribly miscast. Going Postal was the most recent, and I think it was the best partly due to the near-perfect casting of all the main characters.
     
  7. Australis

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    Agree.

    Yeah, the Mort-without-Death thing, I read that and went, WTF?
     
  8. Reverend

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    ^I think that thing with 'Mort' was a case of some studio exec talking of their arse. Numpty had probably only glanced at a summery of a synopsis and thought a gothic comedy didn't fit well with the demographics.

    Probably. It just seems like a bit of a waste to have all that material without really using it. Still, on the bright side I'd hate to have to wait a season or two before Angua shows up. Really, the watch books only got progressively better as they went along.

    On a vaguely related topic, I've just started to read some of the original Conan the Barbarian stories and all of a sudden, I can now get all of the references from Colour of Magic et al. Also, I had no idea Conan was so closely linked with Lovecraft.
     
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    Much as I love TP and his creation, calling him a genius* is a bit strong.

    I enjoyed Hogfather. It's the only one I've seen. From what I'm gathering here, tCOM is to be avoided at all costs and Going Postal is good again?

    *although he did come close with The Night Watch.
     
  10. diankra

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    Exactly: if you adapt the books, fun as it might be, it would take at least a season before all the character currently around would be in place, and good though it is, Guards Guards seems a tiny bit lacking on a re-read because so many key characters are missing or disillusioned shadows of their current selves (and it's not as if Paratchett doesn't retcon a bit himself - from the current books, you'd almost think Igors had always been found everywhere...)
     
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    TCOM suffers from poor casting and the fact that the novel itself isn't great. It's a buddy movie with only a weak story holding things together and for that to work you need a strong chemistry between the two leads, and David Jason and Sean Astin just didn't have it. I found myself continually waiting for Tim Curry to come back on screen because he seemed to have fun acting murderously superior.

    Going Postal was the opposite, the casting was about as good as you can get and it flowed much better than the previous two because they were willing to sacrifice some sections from the novel to make the story work as a film. Which is one of the reasons why I'm optimistic for The Watch because if they're not beholden to the stories of the novels then the characters should come across more naturally.

    I still want adaptations of Men at Arms and Night Watch, but I imagine the series itself would be better.
     
  12. captcalhoun

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    i frequently don't get all the references in DW novels. i found a load out after reading the Discworld companions and the first quiz book.

    like Hersheba sounding like a US chocolate bar.
     
  13. 23skidoo

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    Shouldn't this be in the SF/F section?

    Anyway, if they keep the production values of the recent TV movies it'll be good to see a full-out series. I'm not overly familiar with Pratchett's books, except for Hogfather which I read because of seeing the TV movie, but they seem to strike me as the type of works best suited for ongoing TV treatment rather than one-off movies.

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  14. Reverend

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    Agreed. Though I have to say, as much as I did enjoy Going Postal, I really missed Anghammarad. He was my favourite character in the whole book and they left him out. Bugger.

    Yeah, anyway, I think adapting some existing stories into a new framework would work better than trying to artificially shoehorn the show into continuity. Of course it's just possible that Pratchett has a whole slew of City Watch story ideas that aren't substantial enough for a book but perfect for an hour long show and fully intends to keep the series in continuity. We'll have to wait and see.
     
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    I actually really liked TCOM myself, while I do agree that David Jason and Sean Astin where weird choices, I thought the movie itself was good enough to overcome that. Although, I haven't watched Hogfather since it first aired in the US so there is a chance that I might like it better when I rewatch it soon.

    As for the series, I'm really excited by the idea, and I really hope that they can get people who can do it just both in front of and behind the camera. The only City Watch story I've read so far is Guards! Guards!, so I don't really what I do and don't want to see from the rest of the series.