https://trekmovie.com/2018/05/20/st...er-exploration-and-tying-up-canon-loose-ends/
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Discovery Showrunner Promises Season 2 Character Exploration And Tying Up Canon Loose Ends
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So, since season 1 was about explaining how there was no record of mutinies in TOS, will this season be about how the cloaking devices are "new" in "Balance of Terror"? If every season of Discovery adresses on issue how many seasons would it need until everyone is satisfied? I'm sure someone has a list of discrepancies lying around...
Interesting stuff. My favourite part is this:
Watching DSC I didn’t feel that they had any boundaries at all. As far as “canon” is concerned they’ve not invalidated any events, it’s not as though this episode didn’t happen or that episode can’t have happened because of xyz on DSC. I think they’ve been pretty careful so as to exist in a scenario where any boundaries don’t really apply.
(Except the visuals because we’re assuming that in-universe, the fact that someone designed starships and uniforms the way they did wasn’t actually a fact so therefore can be rebooted. Ok I think I finally get that logic - it’s on television - I’m over it).
And again with the discourse of diversity. I think I understand that DSC is diverse. I don’t think it’s any more diverse than, say, DS9, but ok DSC wants us all to know it’s diverse. And woke. And also diverse. I think I’ve cracked that particular code.
Can we have something about how you’re going to improve the storytelling please?
What’s that? You’re diverse? Yes, I understand that point. What about the storytelling? You’re woke, you say. Well that’s just jim dandy. What about the storytelling of season 2? How will you improve it? Ah. You’re diverse. Gotcha.
Man alive this is getting as repetitive as the record player Captain Kirk had in his quarters on earth in into darkness if it broke.
“They say boundaries and restrictions can be good and for us it was good”
Watching DSC I didn’t feel that they had any boundaries at all. As far as “canon” is concerned they’ve not invalidated any events, it’s not as though this episode didn’t happen or that episode can’t have happened because of xyz on DSC. I think they’ve been pretty careful so as to exist in a scenario where any boundaries don’t really apply.
(Except the visuals because we’re assuming that in-universe, the fact that someone designed starships and uniforms the way they did wasn’t actually a fact so therefore can be rebooted. Ok I think I finally get that logic - it’s on television - I’m over it).
And again with the discourse of diversity. I think I understand that DSC is diverse. I don’t think it’s any more diverse than, say, DS9, but ok DSC wants us all to know it’s diverse. And woke. And also diverse. I think I’ve cracked that particular code.
Can we have something about how you’re going to improve the storytelling please?
What’s that? You’re diverse? Yes, I understand that point. What about the storytelling? You’re woke, you say. Well that’s just jim dandy. What about the storytelling of season 2? How will you improve it? Ah. You’re diverse. Gotcha.
Man alive this is getting as repetitive as the record player Captain Kirk had in his quarters on earth in into darkness if it broke.
So the car that was bringing the men who work on the show broke down?
VOY's featured characters had multiple Humans, a Vulcan, a Hologram, a Klingon/Human hybrid, a Talaxian, and a Ocampa.
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Everything sounds "so far, so good" so far. I'm not expecting to hear much about the storyline this far in advance.
I had to deal with seven seasons of Matt Weiner being ultra cryptic about Mad Men so, compared to what I'm used to, this sounds like information overload.
I had to deal with seven seasons of Matt Weiner being ultra cryptic about Mad Men so, compared to what I'm used to, this sounds like information overload.
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Maybe they need to diversify the writing staff to be inclusive and add some who understand storytelling?
And maybe writers who can write for Burnham and not make everything that comes out of her mouth be a pronouncement, lecture, or opportunity to stick her foot in there.
I have a feeling that S2 is going to be very different from S1.
And, just the fact that we have a cohesive writing staff and set showrunners who aren't all going to turn over at crucial moments in the development of the story arc would indicate a massive potential for improvement.
I am definitely excited about this.
And, just the fact that we have a cohesive writing staff and set showrunners who aren't all going to turn over at crucial moments in the development of the story arc would indicate a massive potential for improvement.
I am definitely excited about this.
See now you’re putting things in terms I think they can relate to
As for Burnham, I think season 1 has fully developed her character. I genuinely don’t think there’s any more room for growth. Your description of her is perfect- but that’s what we’ve got for the next 6 seasons or however long DSC lasts for.
Unless she’s in a coma and everything we’re seeing on DSC is in Michael’s dream.
Then the gagh really will hit the plasma intake manifold.
I think there's a point where some of y'all need to accept that DSC's first season unevenness was based on one simple fact:
Fuller's idea was not that good. Plain-and-simple..it's pretty much the truth.
Klingon War
The "Lorca is a Mirror bad guy" routine
Michael as a human raised on Vulcan
Tyler=Voq SOMEHOW or whatever
I actually think most of these were horrible ideas, and the writers who took over after he departed were left holding the bag, trying desperately to execute on something that was, quite frankly, deeply flawed.
But all that's washed out now. Fuller is gone, the arc is over, and we are set with a blank slate to deal with.
While the rest of you cry and whine about how awful it all is, I find myself absolutely marveling at how much they salvaged from most of these fundamentally horrific ideas. Despite all this, I found what they pulled together to be pretty damn entertaining. Certainly moreso than most Trek Season 1 offerings.
I think there's real potential for S2 now that those arcs are behind us, and I'm looking forward to what they cook up.
Fuller's idea was not that good. Plain-and-simple..it's pretty much the truth.
Klingon War
The "Lorca is a Mirror bad guy" routine
Michael as a human raised on Vulcan
Tyler=Voq SOMEHOW or whatever
I actually think most of these were horrible ideas, and the writers who took over after he departed were left holding the bag, trying desperately to execute on something that was, quite frankly, deeply flawed.
But all that's washed out now. Fuller is gone, the arc is over, and we are set with a blank slate to deal with.
While the rest of you cry and whine about how awful it all is, I find myself absolutely marveling at how much they salvaged from most of these fundamentally horrific ideas. Despite all this, I found what they pulled together to be pretty damn entertaining. Certainly moreso than most Trek Season 1 offerings.
I think there's real potential for S2 now that those arcs are behind us, and I'm looking forward to what they cook up.
100 times more interesting than "angry disgruntled repetitive trolling fan blather."
I’ll be honest - I’d not looked at it from this angle. I’m inclined to agree with your take on the show when considered from this perspective.
I’m keeping my fingers crossed. Maybe one day we’ll look back at s1 and just call it “that really bad one” because the rest of it was great.
For me I’d prefer more information about how they’re going to achieve that - we can take it as read that it’s diverse and woke at this point. Because it’s Star Trek!
I’ll be honest - I’d not looked at it from this angle. I’m inclined to agree with your take on the show when considered from this perspective.
I’m keeping my fingers crossed. Maybe one day we’ll look back at s1 and just call it “that really bad one” because the rest of it was great.
For me I’d prefer more information about how they’re going to achieve that - we can take it as read that it’s diverse and woke at this point. Because it’s Star Trek!
I'm an inherently positive person when it comes to this stuff...so factor that in as well.
But I can't help but feel that the building blocks for something really special are all in place. They just need to execute it now!
“Execute”
Oh, God. A picture is worth 1,000 words and I don't agree with what that picture says considering what happened immediately after it.
You know I didn’t think that far ahead when I used the picture - I literally got as far as “execute” and thought no more about it! I’m not suggesting that DSC will sputter out dead in space after being sabotaged by a duplicitous Scottish man. I’m genuinely not that witty as to use that picture in that way!
Tangentially, I love Star Trek III
That’s a big bridge
“Execute”
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