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Discovery jumping into Kronos cave contradicts TNG Pegasus

There’s also the episode where they encounter a silicon based life form but act like no such thing would exist, even though Kirk discovered one a hundred years earlier.

I guess any canon discreptencies should be due to “classified”.
Data himself is one such problem. Kirk encountered what, three or four different types of androids in his career? Even fell in love with one! yet Data is so "unique". :lol:
 
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Precisely!

Kruge: "Maltz, do you remember the time a Federation battleship appeared in the subterranian caves of Qo'nos?

Maltz: Yes, cap--

Kruge: NO, YOU DON'T. AND NEITHER DO I! UNDERSTOOD?

It wasn't a starship that jumped into the caves of qo'nos, it was was a weather balloon.

Also Praxis was an inside job. well i suppose that one is true
 
Discovery thinking is "do whatever, the fanboys will make up some excuse to make it fit."

Hence terms like "visual reboot", coined not by anyone involved with the show, but by people trying desperately to make it all fit.
 
Really not about hearing it. More about whether or not it feels like it fits with what we know about the universe. The Klingon war simply doesn't feel like it fits. Though it does seem like it would warrant a mention during "Errand of Mercy", since both Kirk and Spock were serving in Starfleet during the war. I would also imagine the Organians would know about, perhaps using it as a reminder of what happens when the two went to war previously.

That's the issue right there I think, isn't it?
The problem is not so much there is a war going on with the klingons - that relationships haven't been rosy was very obvious from all encounters with the klingons.

The problem is just HOW this war is depicted. It should have been a series of major skirmishes, where both sides are fighting over disputed territory and protect their borders.

NOT one where both(!) sides start major attacks on the other sides homeworld, and one where the entire fucking Federation LOSES to the klingons the way the Bajorans got pummeled by the Cardassians. It literally takes the entire cold war logic out of the Earth-klingon conflict, knowing that the klingons could plow through to Earth any time they wanted without any consequences and the Federation would be totally outgunned as soon as hostilites start again.

That's an entirely different friggin' dynamic.
 
Discovery thinking is "do whatever, the fanboys will make up some excuse to make it fit."

Hence terms like "visual reboot", coined not by anyone involved with the show, but by people trying desperately to make it all fit.

Given the massive amount of inconsistencies, soft reboots, and outright "don't care, let's do it anyway" instances throughout Trek...I'd say this thinking is integral and consistent with producing a show or movie in the franchise.
 
To be fair, his android brain never fried up from befuddlement. Pretty unique!
As harsh as it may be to say it, Data and the Federation probably dodged a bullet with Kirk failing to escape Veridian 3. If Kirk survived Generations, the first thing he'd probably do is talk Data to death. Data would thus not be around to lock out the Enterprise E's main computer with a fractal encryption code in First Contact, leading the Borg to assimilate Earth and the Federation per their original plan.
 
We have already have over analyst Star Trek.

But look at this. TOS, TNG, ENT, and DIS are all prime universe Star Trek. But it easier if you don't think them inside the "SAME" Prime Universe Setting. Because if not, we can be insane because of the numerous detail and continuity.

Just think TOS as Prime 1, TNG as Prime 2, ENT as Prime 3, while DIS as Prime 4. They are all prime universe. You can think them live inside the same universe. But in different version. It just like Batman in Michael Keaton Batman, Batman Begin and Gotham; or Sean Connery James Bond and Roger Moore one.

So relax man. Archer, Kirk, Burnham, Picard, SIsko and Janeaway may live in the same universe. That's prime universe. But they are inside different version of prime universe. So all detail and continuity are the subjects of change.
 
We have already have over analyst Star Trek.

But look at this. TOS, TNG, ENT, and DIS are all prime universe Star Trek. But it easier if you don't think them inside the "SAME" Prime Universe Setting. Because if not, we can be insane because of the numerous detail and continuity.

Just think TOS as Prime 1, TNG as Prime 2, ENT as Prime 3, while DIS as Prime 4. They are all prime universe. You can think them live inside the same universe. But in different version. It just like Batman in Michael Keaton Batman, Batman Begin and Gotham; or Sean Connery James Bond and Roger Moore one.

So relax man. Archer, Kirk, Burnham, Picard, SIsko and Janeaway may live in the same universe. That's prime universe. But they are inside different version of prime universe. So all detail and continuity are the subjects of change.
It's Q's fault. Every few years he changes the look of the tech and biology around the galaxy, but not the actual functionality. The inhabitants never notice a thing due to Q altering their perceptions. Well maybe guinan notices. No wonder she's so ticked off at Q.
Why would Kirk "talk Data to death"?
Word gets back to Kirk that McCoy wasn't really satisfied with that dull tour of the Enterprise D that Data gave him. Also Kirk isn't too happy to read how Geordi treated Scotty and decided to get back at Geordi by messing with his best friend.
 
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It's Q's fault. Every few years he changes the look of the tech and biology around the galaxy, but not the actual functionality. The inhabitants never notice a thing due to Q altering their perceptions. Well maybe guinan notices. No wonder she's so ticked off at Q.

Yes, that's right. Q is soooo naughty.
 
The answer is A) the makers of DIS havent watched any star trek before filming this supposed star trek show.
B) DIS isnt set in the same timline as TNG which will be proven when we get the DISCOverse Picard show.
 
The answer is A) the makers of DIS havent watched any star trek before filming this supposed star trek show.
B) DIS isnt set in the same timline as TNG which will be proven when we get the DISCOverse Picard show.
And the most insidious thing about Picard’s show NOT being “Prime” will be the slavishly precise recreation of the Berman-era visuals.
 
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