Discovery: Drastic Measures pre-release thread

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  1. Enterprise1701

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    Simon and Schuster has just released the solicitation blurb for the second Discovery novel, Drastic Measures, by our own Dayton Ward, scheduled for release 6 February 2018:

     
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  2. JD

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    Sounds good. I like that we'll be getting to explore Lorca and Georgiou's pasts.
     
  3. Laura Cynthia Chambers

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    Adrian? He's already been given the first name Arnold elsewhere, according to Memory Beta.
     
  4. Tuskin38

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    Have any novels covered this event before?
     
  5. Laura Cynthia Chambers

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    At least one short story.
     
  6. Christopher

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    Which falls into the cliched pattern of giving a character the first name of the actor who played him (Arnold Moss), so I'm glad this book isn't doing that.
     
  7. Laura Cynthia Chambers

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    Is it kind of a disappointment, regardless, that he has an ordinary-sounding first name coupled with his last name?

    "I knew I should have stayed on Tarsus today!"
     
  8. JD

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    "James Kirk" (actually David A. Goodman) covered it in his "autobiography".
     
  9. Christopher

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    I don't think "Adrian" is too ordinary a name. It's a form of Hadrian, the name of the Roman emperor, which seems fairly impressive. And it's been effective as a villain name before, as in Spider-Man's Adrian Toomes, Arrow's Adrian Chase, or Watchmen's Adrian Veidt.

    Anyway, I'm of the opinion that if a character has one exotic name, the other name should be relatively more ordinary, so it isn't overkill.
     
  10. David cgc

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    My mom had the same idea. I've joked that most people on their first try pronounce my name "David [nervous pause]."
     
  11. Christopher

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    Of course, you can go too far in the other direction too -- like all the fictional characters who have exotic first names and the last name "Jones." Cyrano Jones, Miranda Jones, Cleopatra Jones, Indiana Jones, Cirocco Jones, etc. You can find a similar pattern with "Smith," I imagine.
     
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    Yup, Greg's "Though Hell Should Bar the Way" (from the Enterprise Logs anthology). Wonder how or even if this novel will take that story into account, probably depending on if it's compatible with the new show or not (and the story Dayton wants to tell). Either way, this thing's as good as already bought.
     
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    IIRC, there's a flashback to the event in one of the Shatnerverse novels, where they insert Sarek into events.
     
  14. Dayton Ward

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    "Arnold" comes from The Autobiography of James T. Kirk, which is a separate thing from the novel continuity/continuities.
     
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  16. Extrocomp

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    Thanks. I've added Arnold Kodos to my list of non-canon names and to Kodos' Memory Alpha page. I still would've liked the names to be the same even if it is a different continuity. Is it too late to change it?
    It's been covered in five stories that I know of:
    • A Flag Full Of Stars
    • Avenger
    • Though Hell Should Bar The Way
    • Academy: Collision Course
    • The Autobiography Of James T. Kirk
     
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    Hey Arnold!
     
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  19. Dayton Ward

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    They told me you were the funny one. ;)
     
  20. Enterprise1701

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