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Discovery at SDCC - Consolidated Thread

I thought some of the best TNG episodes were Holodeck based. Thought provoking, exciting, original.

I'm really stuggling to remember one after "The Big Goodbye". But then it's kind of like the Klingon episodes, "Heart of Glory" pretty much covered all the bases and everything else felt derivative.
 
I for one refuse to accept this is in the Prime universe if we don't get to see Wrigley's Pleasure Planet (where, no doubt, there are plenty of holo-suites).:scream:

:lol:
 
While they did overuse it in TNG and Voyager, I don't think there's anything wrong with the Holodecks. They just have to be careful how they use them.
As for good Holodeck episodes, I'd say Elementary, Dear Data, The Big Goodbye, A Fist Full of Datas, Ship in a Bottle, The Killing Game, It's Only A Paper Moon and The Bride of Chaotica are pretty high up there.
Not to mention that there were a quite a great episodes that have a one or even a few scenes on the holodeck.
If we were to ban everything that had a few bad episodes focused on it from ever appearing on TV, there'd be nothing left to watch.
 
Yeah, but it's not like they couldn't have made a stupid episode about Barclay without it. I never doubted you can write bad holodeck episodes. ;)
Well the whole holodeck addiction thing was the conceptual core of the character.

And also because, in a world governed by otherwise perfect people in paradise, socially dysfunctional nerds are still a thing.
 
Even worse about Voyager was that after going to all the effort early on to explicitly note that the holodeck power system was incompatible with the power on the rest of the ship (thus giving the writers another 'out' on things that we should ration that they don't - shuttles, torpedoes...) was that later on they forget and can suddenly route power from the holodecks to supplement other ship systems (they try it in "Night" but the relays are "frozen", and I am pretty sure they succeed at it in one other later episode).
 
That's true. I'm glad the NX-01 didn't have one.
True, the NX-01 itself didn't have one. But they encountered an alien holodeck in that episode where Trip got pregnant, and the Klingons obtained the holographic technology too.

And then we were subjected to that classic line "I can see my house from here!" :rolleyes:

Kor
 
I wouldn't be so sure. We saw them on TAS. What was that area with trees Burnham walks into?

I seem to remember a thread a couple months ago discussing whether or not officers would be smoking pot on Discovery.

Man, remember how horrible life was back when we didn't get weekly updates and info on Discovery? Dark times.
 
Lol, except for the times that it is compatible. Good old Voyager.
IDK - Gotta love tech that could KILL the living people inside (From TNG's "The Big Goodbye") :
[Outside Holodeck]

LAFORGE: La Forge to Bridge.
RIKER [OC]: Riker here.
LAFORGE: We think we have something, sir. I'll let Ensign Crusher explain.
WESLEY: The bi-converter interface has been affected

[Bridge]

RIKER: Forget the explanation! Can you do it?

[Outside Holodeck]

WESLEY: I don't know if I should. If this isn't done correctly, the program could abort and everyone inside could vanish.

[Bridge]

RIKER: Do you need more time to study it?
WESLEY [OC]: Whether we do it now or later, the risk is the same.
RIKER: Do it.

So yeah, you can't just turn it off out of sequence or you kill the people using it...:rommie:
 
I thought some of the best TNG episodes were Holodeck based. Thought provoking, exciting, original.

"To seek out new life, and new civilizations. To waste an hour on the frakkin' holodeck".

What TNG episode was "thought provoking", other than thinking you might want to change the channel?
 
"To seek out new life, and new civilizations. To waste an hour on the frakkin' holodeck".

What TNG episode was "thought provoking", other than thinking you might want to change the channel?

Dr.Moriarty becoming an independently thinking entity. I still think about that one as it's something we will soon be facing later this century.
 
Dr.Moriarty becoming an independently thinking entity. I still think about that one as it's something we will soon be facing later this century.

Explain how that can even happen. It's like when Voyager was going to try transwarp with what little they had but Starfleet with all their resources couldn't do it.
 
It's like when Voyager was going to try transwarp with what little they had but Starfleet with all their resources couldn't do it.

They didn't have a former Borg with former Borg knowledge.

Well, except Picard :D
 
They worked out how to transwarp in about 5 minutes flat in Descent anyway and promptly forgot. It's probably on a PADD somewhere with the psychotricorder and the genesis device.

The Moriarty thing always bugged me, because the computer can apparently create sentient life, on a whim, simply by being asked to create an opponent to Data. If it can do that, something not even Data can do, as per Measure of a Man, is the enterprise computer not a sentient being with the right to free will?
 
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