Maybe they were introduced around the same time as Kirk's Green tunic, but then it was quickly decided that a choice of uniform should be reserved only for the captain?
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Yes that sounds like a plausible situation. Send out a distress signal and once you know which ship is coming to help, change uniforms.
Well, you don't want to look too shabby when the ship that just ended the Klingon War comes to your rescue.
I'd forgotten that part. Oops.
Perhaps The Cage happened on casual Friday then.
But I'd guess you wouldn't be feeling too casual in the aftermath of several crew dying.
Perhaps The Cage happened on casual Friday then.
But I'd guess you wouldn't be feeling too casual in the aftermath of several crew dying.
This line of thought is reminding me of SG-1, which had so many different outfits they wore they could do an episode where a dozen alternate universe duplicates could show up with all of them wearing unique colors.
Irrelevant, they're rebooting the look of the thing (I'd argue much more than the look, but this isn't the thread for it) so although they could have had "Cage" uniforms it's not the intent of the creators. What we're seeing is the DISCOverse's version of Pike-era garb.
Right. The pilots were the first draft. TOS was the refinement. This is a new work created later, so naturally it takes advantage of the refinements and improvements.
USS Enterprise, 2264:
Fleet Captain Pike: "She's your ship now, Jim."
Captain Kirk: "Thanks. First order of business, we're going to be wearing those nice turtlenecks from ten years ago."
Pike: "Those looked terrible and gave everyone rashes, that's why we stopped wearing them."
Kirk: "I appreciate the input, Chris, but I'm Captain now, and I say we wear them. This is Captain's prerogative. Starfleet would have to send me out of the galaxy before I budge on this issue."
Fleet Captain Pike: "She's your ship now, Jim."
Captain Kirk: "Thanks. First order of business, we're going to be wearing those nice turtlenecks from ten years ago."
Pike: "Those looked terrible and gave everyone rashes, that's why we stopped wearing them."
Kirk: "I appreciate the input, Chris, but I'm Captain now, and I say we wear them. This is Captain's prerogative. Starfleet would have to send me out of the galaxy before I budge on this issue."
“But, we’ll wear them without the collar rolled inward. It’s like a whole new uniform!”
So, should some future Star Trek novelverse adventure crossover with Captain Pike's adventures, would/should authors describe the uniforms, sets and ships as they appeared in the TOS pilot and "The Menagerie" or DSC season two? Are we seeing a retcon where these designs have all been replaced within the Star Trek Prime Universe mythos and the new look is all there is, or an alternate take on Trek so TOS novels won't ever mention the Enterprise of Pike's time having bifurcated nacelle pylons or bright red and yellow uniform shirts, with pin badges and piping along the shoulders?
Or would this all be decided by an editor of said hypothetical novel and above the writer's pay grade?
Or would this all be decided by an editor of said hypothetical novel and above the writer's pay grade?
If a novel is said between DSC and TOS I presume it would use the uniforms from DSC, before DSC on the Enterprise I presume the uniforms from "The Cage" would be used and in TOS the normal TOS uniforms.
The good thing about prose is that you don't have to describe superficial visual details like that. Go through any typical Trek novel and odds are you'll find no description of uniforms at all, except maybe in the vaguest terms.
This is all a work of imagination. Onscreen, you see how the imaginations of various artists, performers, and other creators interpret a story. In prose, your own imagination interprets it. Do you see original uniforms or retconned uniforms? Do you see Kirstie Alley Saavik or Robin Curtis Saavik? Do you see TOS-style Andorians or ENT-style Andorians? That's between you and your brain. You're the production team, so you make those decisions.
If the antenna are described as moving in any way, the ENT version.
While uniforms likely won't be described to the detail of having the zip, collar and piping of the Disco unis, security wearing red shirts, or other uniform colours is something that very likely will come up. In TOS' version of Pike's era, the uniform colours were gold, mustard and blue. Disco's version of the era has gold, red and blue.
As I said, I'm not sure that's true. I don't recall seeing uniform colors discussed that often, since it's assumed most readers know what the uniforms look like. For instance, I just checked The Face of the Unknown's manuscript, and not once did I mention what color shirt any main character was wearing. There's one mention of Lt. Bailey's gold shirt because it's plot-relevant, and one passing mention of a security guard's red tunic, and that's it.
Actually they were lime green (appearing greenish-gold on camera), beige, and blue. And who cares? It was a pilot. The uniforms were ugly and they replaced that first attempt with something better. That's what happens to pilots. Spock's eyebrows were steeper too. Why would that change? It didn't, in-universe. The depiction was refined. Pilots are rough drafts. They try things out that get refined or abandoned later on. So it's best not to take their details too literally.
I haven´t read the comic yet, but...
Owosekun issue is pretty silly, especially, since she wasn´t even part of Mirror Shenzhou crew.
Despite what show writers said, Mirror Burnham is alive after all. What´s next? She´ll run into Prime Lorca?
It actually takes place in the dimension were all the dead people go. Next is a team up with Marvel's Legion of the Unliving, featuring such prestigious members like Drax and Bucky!