Spoilers Discovery and the Novelverse - TV show discussion thread

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by F. King Daniel, May 18, 2017.

  1. Unimatrix Q

    Unimatrix Q Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Looking back, i'm kinda sad that there were never any cetacean crewmembers during the tenure of the Novelverse.

    The only novel i remember with an (alien) cetacean making an appearance was Dark Mirror.

    Would have been especially great if cetacean ops played a role in the Titan novels with their focus on the mixed species crew.
     
  2. Charles Phipps

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    Well those were clearly alien beluga whales because they sounded like dolphins and their eyes are in a different place.

    :)
     
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  3. Unimatrix Q

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    That's possible, especially by considering Jennifer the Andorian and the Kzin, but wouldn't it be more interesting and fascinating if they were from Earth?
     
  4. Charles Phipps

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    But can they be if whales are extinct in the 23rd century?
     
  5. David cgc

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    We only know Humpback Whales were extinct, any number of other species could've survived without time-travel conservation missions.
     
  6. Unimatrix Q

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    Maybe only Humpbacks were extinct and the other Whales and Dolphins weren't important to the species building the probe.
     
  7. Unimatrix Q

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    Wow. Same idea at the same time :beer::techman:
     
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  8. Seventh Day of Christmas

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    They were just bilingual whales who spoke dolphin as a second language! ;)
     
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  9. Christopher

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    Maybe Rutherford only speaks Delphinese and the whales were speaking it for his benefit.
     
  10. F. King Daniel

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    I can't remember if it was speculation or a legit story, but I think I read somewhere that Hwiii was intended to be an Earth dolphin before Richard Arnold Richard Arnolded all over it.
     
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  11. Christopher

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    Quite likely, since his culture and rituals described in the book were a direct lift from the dolphin society in Duane's Young Wizards novel Deep Wizardry. In fact, I don't think I caught on that Hwiii wasn't an Earth dolphin until after I'd read the book several times.
     
  12. dupersuper

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    I admit I've only read 1 or 2 SCE books, but I'm sure we can fit them in. Fan power!
     
  13. David cgc

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    I need to read those, I bought the complete set of eBooks from her website on sale a few years ago. It's just much easier to forget the eBooks on my to-read pile since it's not actually taking up space where I can see it like the physical books are (and those are already pretty easy to lose sight of).
     
  14. Unimatrix Q

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    Yes. I remember Richard Arnold being responsible for this, too. The novel was great, but i would have liked it a lot more if Hwii stayed being a dolphin from Earth in it, as originally planned.
     
  15. KRAD

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    Actually, the SCE series fits just fine with LD. The last SCE story was Remembrance of Things Past, which takes place a good four years prior to LD season 2. What "First First Contact" contradicts are the later cameos by Gomez and the gang in places like Destiny, A Singular Destiny, and Indistinguishable from Magic.
     
  16. Christopher

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    Which were already contradicted by Picard anyway.
     
  17. Charles Phipps

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    Bah, those damn caeliar just missed a few cubes. :)