Hey, SamuraiBlue! Go to http://www.clavius.org and you'll find the answer for most of your list of questions (snd several others that you didn't found in Google)
Did we land on moon?
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No it does not answer my question since it does not mention anythig about the paper announced by Professor Louis Smullin and Dr. Giorgio Fiocco of MIT in 1962.
Would you read the article before going overboard that I have provided in my earlier post.
So you believe that when their spacecraft failed to leave orbit and head to the moon that Russia and other nations were unable to detect that? Or do you propose that this was an international conspiracy?
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The article states that only a tiny fraction of the laser beam sent out returned. This does not prove or disprove reflectors in any way, shape or form, unless you think the reflectors should have been distributed evenly across the whole surface of the visible planet?
I guess you can't make one and one together since it states they were able to record light reflection from the moon without a reflector meaning you do not need one.
So any mention of a reflector as evidence that man was on the moon is moot.
In other words if you don't need one then how can it be supportive evidence that man placed it on the first place especially when you can't distinguish a natrual reflection with a manmade one.
I guess you can't make one and one together since it states they were able to record light reflection from the moon without a reflector meaning you do not need one.
So any mention of a reflector as evidence that man was on the moon is moot.
In other words if you don't need one then how can it be supportive evidence that man placed it on the first place especially when you can't distinguish a natrual reflection with a manmade one.
You're saying that because a little bit of laser light was reflected without assistance this proves that there aren't reflectors? This doesn't make sense.
SamuraiBlue;1941833So what reflectors would be a more appropriate answer.[/quote said:
D'oh! So, SamuraiBlue, are you going to tell us that Erich von Daniken Chariots of the Gods extraterrestrials put those reflectors on the moon? Eh?'Cause they must have built the pyramids in Egypt and the Easter Island statues and the ziggurats in Central America!
-- RR
As Pingfah had already posted,other nationsbesides the US cannot verify the existance of the reflectors on the moon.
Japan tried but failed as I have wrote.
So what reflectors would be a more appropriate answer.
I said no such thing, learn to read
What I said, for those who can read, was that if Japan said that the reflectors are "not accurate enough" then they MUST therefore exist.
Please don't put words in my mouth, especially not idiotic ones.
Yes. This is what will blow the lid off everything.
The largest conspiracy ever perpetrated in human history and it's all exposed due to a stage hand not covering up a "C" on a prop rock and then NO ONE seeing it before it went to air.
You'd have to think at least one person in the tens of thousands involved would've seen it in one of the countless rehearsals. You think someone would've asked "Hey, what the fuck is a "C" doing on a prop rock anyway?"
Lunar conspiracists are morons. Every last one of them. If you counter with overwhelming evidence they say you were paid off or something. I guess that's what happened to all the wealth accumulated in the 50s and why the country sucked balls in the 70s.
During the 60s the Federal Government paid everyone in the states of Florida and Texas to keep the lie going.
Love that logic.
It. Happened. Trust me, it happened. Anyone trying to rationalize and debate with someone who doesn't believed the obvious (when you can look at the landing sites with a telescope and see the shit still there) is just wasting their time.
Your claims contradict work by people far smarter than you, in hundreds of published reports from decades of research. READ and learn. Does the truth of the matter interest you or just denying it?
FAIL - moon rocks are detectably different from terran rocks. You're no geologist or you wouldn't say something that silly.
Good for them. Even Japanese evidence isn't good enough for you, huh?
Please let this idiotic thread die, PLEASSSSSE?
That's because time-consuming and detailed replies to this kind of nonsense unworthy of our time and energy.
There are stupid notions that deserve nothing more than dismissal. This is one of them.
Just because someone wanders into a room and asserts that the Earth is flat and they can "prove it" doesn't entitle them to be taken seriously.
So many people who can't read.
First of all, the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan(the origin) states that they have not tested the laser reflectors and yet everyone believes a secondary source that they have.
Second an article published in 1962 tells people that reflected light from the moon had been successfully observed WITHOUT reflectors and yet people still insists that it is there?
It seems as if you guys are so fixated in saving a white elephant that you can't see logic.
Does this prove that man have not been on the moon?
No, but it proves that the reflectors can not be used as definitive proof that we have.
By the way the University of Tokyo(and most scientists that had access to the moon rock), here in Japan made the conclusion that there is nothing to be studied, not me.
First of all, the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan(the origin) states that they have not tested the laser reflectors and yet everyone believes a secondary source that they have.
Second an article published in 1962 tells people that reflected light from the moon had been successfully observed WITHOUT reflectors and yet people still insists that it is there?
It seems as if you guys are so fixated in saving a white elephant that you can't see logic.
Does this prove that man have not been on the moon?
No, but it proves that the reflectors can not be used as definitive proof that we have.
By the way the University of Tokyo(and most scientists that had access to the moon rock), here in Japan made the conclusion that there is nothing to be studied, not me.
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Such people are far better than the ones who won't think.So many people who can't read.
This goes beyond funny to sad, coming from someone using 1962 popular magazine articles as a foundation for their belief in contradiction to fact.
Sure they can, and will continue to do so. Even if (as you claim and I doubt) Japanese astronomers can't figure out how to use the reflectors, many others have for decades as the record shows. Do you have any academic credentials to challenge almost thirty years of mature work?
No names of these scientists...? All such a claim does is sully Japanese geologists, since there's no doubt in the global scientific community that the rock(s) plural are from the moon.
Do you have a link?
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