Did we know about the Borg sooner?

[MacLeod]

You know, I was watching Voyager Flashback and ...

I take it you haven't seen the Enterprise episode "Regeneration", where Captain Archer fights the Borg 200 years before "Q Who"?

But at the time of Q-who, Picard and the Enterprise E hadn't yet traveled back in time.

And Borg wreckage hadn't been dumped in Antarctic.

And historically Lily was probably aboard the phoenix warp flight.

And historically the NX-01 wasn't named "Enterprise."

And the NX-01 never encountered the Borg during it's voyages.

When Picard and crew were in the 21st century (FC) their actions and those of the Borg changed history. But there was a original unaltered history prior to those changes.

At the time of Q-who, the original history was still in place.

But those are effects of an event (cause) which hasn't happened yet.

 

[Tiberius]

You know, I was watching Voyager Flashback and ...

I take it you haven't seen the Enterprise episode "Regeneration", where Captain Archer fights the Borg 200 years before "Q Who"?

But at the time of Q-who, Picard and the Enterprise E hadn't yet traveled back in time.

And Borg wreckage hadn't been dumped in Antarctic.

And historically Lily was probably aboard the phoenix warp flight.

And historically the NX-01 wasn't named "Enterprise."

And the NX-01 never encountered the Borg during it's voyages.

When Picard and crew were in the 21st century (FC) their actions and those of the Borg changed history. But there was a original unaltered history prior to those changes.

At the time of Q-who, the original history was still in place.

Or maybe there was the Borg wreckage and all the other stuff, because Picard and his crew had no choice but to do what they did?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Even though they use different spellings I've wondered if there was a connection between Hanson and the Hansens.

No.

Oh God no.

Why does anyone with a remotely similar name HAVE TO BE related to each other? There are BILLIONS of people, maybe TRILLIONS of people across the Federation. Chances are there are going to be lots of them named Hansen or Hanson or something like that.

Enough with the small universe where everyone knows everyone else. It's bad enough in Star Wars where they take each and every person who was in the pod race audience and give them a complete backstory, name and everything. Let's not also do it for trek.

Even though they use different spellings I've wondered if there was a connection between Hanson and the Hansens.

Hanson/Hansen is not exactly a rare name, there would be no reason for them to be related at all.

Normally I'm not a fan of linking everyone with the same name, but in this case I like the idea. Not because of the name, but because of the Borg. It would flesh out Hanson and the Hansens and their motivations concerning the Borg.

 

[Tiberius]

Normally I'm not a fan of linking everyone with the same name, but in this case I like the idea. Not because of the name, but because of the Borg. It would flesh out Hanson and the Hansens and their motivations concerning the Borg.

Still no. If it was Admiral Smith instead of Admiral Hanson, you wouldn't be proposing it.

There was nothing in tBoBW to suggest that Hanson had any motivation for stopping the Borg other than the "Borg = bad guys" idea. Certainly nothing to suggest he was motivated because he'd lost family members (ie; Magnus, Erin and Annika) to them.

 

[Timo]

Indeed, the point about Admiral Hanson was that he didn't really believe in the Borg, and e.g. dismissed the threat posed by Locutus. The point about the Hansens was that they did believe. We could plead "poetic justice" or whatnot when Granddad Hans*n dies because of his lack of faith, but that's really silly.

Besides, Hanson vs. Hansen is a bit like Ivan vs. John, or Cat vs. Dog, or Night vs. Day. If you spell it with "e", you have Danish or Norwegian roots; if with "o", it's more a Swedish thing. And you don't go telling Vikings that they all look the same to you!

Timo Saloniemi