Conversely there's no reason for him not to have been taken over by the "Queen" in between this and "Conspiracy".
Did We Ever See The Real Remmick
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By story logic, the bugs would not wish to launch an investigation if they had any say in it. Even if Quinn's bosses insisted on an investigation, a bug controlling Quinn would probably have the clout to make sloppy work out of it and not increase tensions and suspicion by having his underling Remmick do the third degree for seemingly no reason.
Yet if Quinn were still his own free-thinking self at that point, the putative bug inside Remmick might have little choice but to conduct the suspicions-arousing interrogations...
But no, the issue is not neutral - there would definitely be a reason for the bugs to take control of these two between the episodes! The investigation conducted by them has to be stopped, and taking control of Remmick would be a necessary step there, unless his death could be arranged.
Timo Saloniemi
Yet if Quinn were still his own free-thinking self at that point, the putative bug inside Remmick might have little choice but to conduct the suspicions-arousing interrogations...
But no, the issue is not neutral - there would definitely be a reason for the bugs to take control of these two between the episodes! The investigation conducted by them has to be stopped, and taking control of Remmick would be a necessary step there, unless his death could be arranged.
Timo Saloniemi
Killing Remmick, even making it look accidental, would raise so many flags for an already paranoid Quinn. So taking him over was the best option.
If I were a Bond villain, I’d be the janitor...
So what was his takeover like?
Eihort bargain or Glaaki shard
One could also wonder if there even was a real Remmick, was it a parasite thingy all along?
(been while since I watched this one, would that even make sense?)
Now that would get complicated. To insert an entirely fake person into the Starfleet hierarchy, the bugs would first have to bug most of his superiors and coworkers so that nobody would notice. Why bother, when you could simply just bug everybody?
The Remmick we see doesn't appear to be a kingpin agent or anything: he meekly takes orders from Quinn even in situations where the two are alone and not fooling anybody with an Admiral-and-his-subordinate act. If Remmick is a special sort of creature, what sort of special? Why is he brought along?
Timo Saloniemi
The Remmick we see doesn't appear to be a kingpin agent or anything: he meekly takes orders from Quinn even in situations where the two are alone and not fooling anybody with an Admiral-and-his-subordinate act. If Remmick is a special sort of creature, what sort of special? Why is he brought along?
Timo Saloniemi
That we KNOW of. (hence being disappointed there wasn't more here)
There's no reason for the Queen to pretend investigate and make ZERO attempts to plant a few critters to turn the Enterprise while she was RIGHT there either.
There had to be. The parasites have to have a host body to inhabit.
Oh? I thought one of 'em was doing quite well in a briefcase.
If anything, being in a host body handicaps these critters, so that they no longer can communicate with each other, and may be fooled in various ways because of that.
Host bodies may have multiple uses, though. With one critter buried inside the neck to control the host, further ones may choose to live in the stomach. Which is why the hosts start eating copious amounts of worms, and why a creature can leave a victim through his mouth without shedding blood... Perhaps at least one of these tummy tenants then grows bigger, for whatever reason, and ultimately consumes the host. (In which case Remmick would have been possessed first, and was near the putative terminal stage in the episode, whilst his boss did not yet have irreversible body cavity damage.)
Timo Saloniemi
If anything, being in a host body handicaps these critters, so that they no longer can communicate with each other, and may be fooled in various ways because of that.
Host bodies may have multiple uses, though. With one critter buried inside the neck to control the host, further ones may choose to live in the stomach. Which is why the hosts start eating copious amounts of worms, and why a creature can leave a victim through his mouth without shedding blood... Perhaps at least one of these tummy tenants then grows bigger, for whatever reason, and ultimately consumes the host. (In which case Remmick would have been possessed first, and was near the putative terminal stage in the episode, whilst his boss did not yet have irreversible body cavity damage.)
Timo Saloniemi
Taking over an existing person seems less complicated than creating a totally fake service record.
The real answer is it was intended to be the real Remmick at first because they hadn’t made the Conspiracy story up yet.
He wouldn’t have had a pleased reaction when the escaped boy in the shuttle got saved from burning up.
He wouldn’t have had a pleased reaction when the escaped boy in the shuttle got saved from burning up.
I’m reminded of the old horror film “Parasite”
I see this as a genetically engineered bio weapon. The mother beast may be an alien, but it may itself simply be bred to use the intelligence of any host as opposed to having much of a brain itself.
Spawned by a bio-type Borg. The Vong from Star Wars EU was similar
I see this as a genetically engineered bio weapon. The mother beast may be an alien, but it may itself simply be bred to use the intelligence of any host as opposed to having much of a brain itself.
Spawned by a bio-type Borg. The Vong from Star Wars EU was similar
The Parasites making a reappearance in season seven would have been great. Sad they never brought them back and finally destroyed them! Isn't there an official explanation as to why they didn't bring them back?
JB
JB
...Because they could look at nothing about the first season without cringing?
The characters from that season returned. None of the plotlines ever did, save for Q's Trial of Humanity at the very end. (And the mad Ferengi of "The Battle", of all things!)
Timo Saloniemi
The characters from that season returned. None of the plotlines ever did, save for Q's Trial of Humanity at the very end. (And the mad Ferengi of "The Battle", of all things!)
Timo Saloniemi
There are always the novels and comics: they've popped up in both (quite undestroyed).
Why? Just because they wanted to take over doesn't necessarily mean that the bugs have no regard for the life of those they want to control or that they enjoy causing unneccesary deaths.
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