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Did the X-Men Villainess Destiny used to shag Sherlock Holmes?

Guy Gardener

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been meaning to make a thread about this for years.

"Irene Adler"

A common enough name I suppose.

But it's cheating to think that Holmes fell in love with the mutant thinking that her mind was as magnificent as his to deduce the future through the summation and compilation of a billion tiny facts into a cogent impression, when she could just see it plain as day.

Sort of like a Sean "Psych" Spencer in reverse.
 
Or the writers were fan of the Holmes books.

If you look at the real names of the Hellfire Club you might notice a pattern.
 
Guy Gardener said:
been meaning to make a thread about this for years.

"Irene Adler"

A common enough name I suppose.

But it's cheating to think that Holmes fell in love with the mutant thinking that her mind was as magnificent as his to deduce the future through the summation and compilation of a billion tiny facts into a cogent impression, when she could just see it plain as day.

Sort of like a Sean "Psych" Spencer in reverse.
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I think Mystique was suppose to be Sherlock Holmes.
 
Guy Gardener said:
been meaning to make a thread about this for years.

"Irene Adler"

A common enough name I suppose.

But it's cheating to think that Holmes fell in love with the mutant thinking that her mind was as magnificent as his to deduce the future through the summation and compilation of a billion tiny facts into a cogent impression, when she could just see it plain as day.

Sort of like a Sean "Psych" Spencer in reverse.
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:cardie: HUH?

Are you suggesting a cross-over?
 
Well, Irene in the X-Men was quite old... When did she go blind?

Puberty when her powers kicked in?

Though any fool can use second sight as first sight if they just reel it in a little.

I'm saying it might have always happened.

If her power slowed her ageing a little, and even if she just looked good for her age (X-Treme X-Men aside.) Irene could have been in her early 20s or passed for her early 20s when Holmes was hunting Mr Hyde and Jack the Ripper... Too much? The Red Headed League?

I loved Holmes in Planetary.

What an asshole.
 
Is Sherlock Holmes supposed to be a real person in the X-Men universe? Something tells me he would be a fictional character instead, no?

ETA: Or maybe not
 
Guy Gardener said:
been meaning to make a thread about this for years.

"Irene Adler"

A common enough name I suppose.

But it's cheating to think that Holmes fell in love with the mutant thinking that her mind was as magnificent as his to deduce the future through the summation and compilation of a billion tiny facts into a cogent impression, when she could just see it plain as day.

Sort of like a Sean "Psych" Spencer in reverse.
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If you go by Philip Jose Farmer, Holmes was a mutant, too.
 
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X-Men Chaos War was unreadable bollocks.
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And yet, it still answered your question. Co-Written by Chris Claremont, no less.

I don't know if Holmes has ever appeared in a MU story or not, but I do remember the Batman issue that he was in.

According to the Marvel Database wiki, the Shang-Chi supporting character Clive Reston, who appeared most recently in Captain Britain and M1-13 in 2009, was a releative of both Holmes and James Bond!

Didn't ST:TNG get grief from the ACD estate for the use of Holmes characters on the holo-deck?
 
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Because they didn't pay the estate, or because it besmirched the characters?

If TNG ignored copyright and stole form the family of Doyle, then fairs fair doesn't that make it morally acceptable to pirate the poop out of TNG in return?

I would have thought Sherlock Holmes would have been public Domain by now?

(I wonder what they thought about Sherlock Hemlock on Sesame Street?)

Claremont isn't that good.

He was just lucky enough to writing when John Byrne was pencilling, and rode that wave to shore for the next 15 years.
 
Can't agree with that. Even though I believe that X-Men was best under Byrne, sales actually increased after he left. It wasn't just Byrne.
 
Yeah, X-Men didn't really hit the big leagues until Paul Smith was on the book a few years after Byrne left.
 
Guy Gardener said:
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If TNG ignored copyright and stole form the family of Doyle, then fairs fair doesn't that make it morally acceptable to pirate the poop out of TNG in return?

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I believe it was an honest mistake. TNG just assumed that Holmes was public domain (and who could blame them?) . . . until they got a letter from the Doyle estate. Oops!
 
Guy Gardener said:
Claremont isn't that good.

He was just lucky enough to writing when John Byrne was pencilling, and rode that wave to shore for the next 15 years.
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I can't agree with that either. And I only brought it up because he's Destiny's creator, so a story from him that names Destiny as the Irene Adler of Holmes tales is something that I would consider definitive.
 
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You give Chris 20 years to weave together a massive and fractured superhistory, it's going to be one hell of a ride. He's like a seal spinning dozens of plates.

But if you give him 20 ages to put forward point "X" because his editor says so... Gonna be bollocks.

Oh, Mike, as my John Byrne theory was being (John Byrne is lucky that he can draw because his writing borders between awful to morally bankrupt.) shot down by my distinguished peers, I was thinking, yeah and then what about Paul Smith which is when "JINX" I read you saying Paul Smith too. That stuff was A1.

I checked into X-Men as an 11 Year old during the Inferno so I'm all about Marc Sylvestri, and then I worked backwards form there.
 
I'll take Byrne's FF and Superman over anything Claremont has written. ( and a bunch of other writers as well)
 
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