Did the Vulcans have transporters?

[Count Zero]

Last night I wondered whether other races were shown to have developed transporter technology in ENT? I can't really remember an instance where aliens used it, Vulcans included. I don't want to watch the whole series again, and a quick research at Memory Alpha wasn't conclusive. Am I wrong?

 

[ChristopherPike]

Sadly, some Klingons were shown beaming down in Mauraders.

Suliban of course, but everything about them was too futuristic for the 22nd Century... so their transporters probably had close to 29th Century abilities.

The Andorians weren't expecting a transporter in their first appearance. By Season 4, they were able to abduct Soval from under the Enterprise crew's nose. So they obviously obtained one sometime inbetween.

I don't ever recall Vulcans having one, unless they just wanted to make a big show of docking with the NX-01, keen to keep their highest tech classified.

 

[JB2005]

We never saw them with it. But if Humanity had the technology, then it stands to reason Vulcans had it...

 

[Count Zero]

I had forgotten about the Klingons. And I really can't remember the Suliban haveing one. In which episodes did they have one?

The Orions had transporter tech, too. I remember now. Ok, so there were aliens who had the tech, but did the Vulcans?

 

[ChristopherPike]

It's easy to imagine groups of Suliban squeezing through an airlock, or a gap in hull plating. However instances like Broken Bow and The Expanse, they take away people in the blink of an eye... or while they're misdirecting Security at any rate. Klaang and Archer, who can't exactly hold their breath, as their abductors take the scenic route off the ship.

 

[Count Zero]

But in "Broken Bow", they're followed through the ship by the crew. I always assumed they just boarded Enterprise. They would have the only transporter without a transporter beam. Or can only beam when nobody watches them.

 

[ChristopherPike]

In Broken Bow I can buy some Cell ship docking, so they can sneak on and off. But by The Expanse, the way Archer is whisked away to meet Future Guy happens so fast. It's another of those benefits afforded by their ally I guess...

 

[Count Zero]

Haven't watched The Expanse for a while, so I really don't remember. But didn't the ENT crew use the transporter fairly often by then? Or did that happen later, during season 3 and 4?

 

[ChristopherPike]

Vanishing Point is about mid-season and it's still being made a fuss about. Hoshi is told that she's joined the club, indicating it's still an exclusive thing. Near the end of the year, it helps Archer and Reed plant explosives aboard that Borgifyed Artic transport in Regeneration. Bit of a last resort that one. I can only think of those two moments off the top of my head.

I could be wrong but the transporter isn't taken for granted as much as most seem to remember. It's still mostly shuttlepods and airlock dockings.

 

[Count Zero]

Probably people were still bitter about it being used in the pilot already.

 

[pookha]

the transporter is seen as a thing mightly feared until the fourth season.
toward the end of the fourth season people seem to be easier about it.

i often wondered if someone was selling transporter tech on the black market,., which is how the orions got it.

and the klingons didnt have it until second season and they saw it being used.

i coud almost see emory being so desperate to get his son back going around and selling the tech or at least parts of it to brokers just to keep on getting whatever funding starfleet wasnt giving.
or to pay off bribes about what happened on the earlier ship.

at first the xindi didnt have it but i think rajiin targeted that one crewman plus tpol and learned enough about it not only to be able to use it but for the xindi to replicate their own when they grabbed hoshi.

 

[Timo]

Suliban of course, but everything about them was too futuristic for the 22nd Century...

I don't really understand this argument. What was the 22nd century for our Earthling heroes, or the 2nd century of starflight, would have been something like the 33rd starflight century for the Vulcans (who had founded an interstellar monastery three millennia before the series), and possibly the 11th for the Klingons (who had been under the Hur'Q yoke just a thousand years before the series, and then evicted these space-savvy oppressors). Many of the species our heroes encountered may have been thousands of years ahead of Earth in technology - and some perhaps millions. Why should the Suliban fall in synch with Earth?

Apparently, it's possible for two civilizations to become locked in cold war so that their technologies develop apace; say, UFP and Klingons for the next few centuries. But it's equally possible for a primitive civilization to utterly fail to reach the level of a slightly more advanced one, despite the two being in sporadic contrast; say, the way our TOS heroes sign mining agreements with natives who think a flintlock rifle is a nifty piece of technology.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but Vulcans had transporters in Kir'shara