I take it you haven't watched Star Trek?
Did the Enterprise only have 3 female crew members?
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I take it you haven't watched Star Trek?
Yeah the ratio is about 70/30 in TOS. They upped it to maybe 60/40, possibly even 55/45 in TMP and then it appeared to drop right back to 70/30 again for all subseqent movies.
I don't know what the writers and casting agents have against women but they tend to be left to flit around in the background. Most of the characters with lines tend to be male. NuTrek bizarrely perpetuated this despite being made 40 years after the original. Yay for equality.
Well, with a main cast of characters that includes six males and one female thats not too surprising. Not much you can to there unless one of the six gets a sex change.
There were a few one or two line roles given to women: Galia, one of Winona's doctors, a communations officer, a shuttle attendent, and various officers on the Kelvin and Enterprise. Probably an equal amount to the the male "supermumerary" parts. And of course Winona and Amanda have several lines as well.
You see women hasting along the corridors all the time, in the background.
Officers? Don't know how many of them are actually officers as opposed to enlisted crewmen (WOMEN!).
That's the wierd thing, even if you strip out the big seven, you are still left with the same imbalance among the supporting cast. There are actually only a couple of women in key roles on the Kelvin bridge and almost all the dialogue goes to the men (even the alien was played by a woman but was officially male in the script), there are only a few admirals on the outer edges of the Starfleet panel and all the dialogue goes to men, there is only one woman on the vulcan science panel and all the dialogue goes to men, Olsen, Keenser, etc. Of the characters you listed above we usually have unimaginative, stereotypical female roles (medical, communications, mothers, and girlfriends). No female captains, first officers, engineers, or scientists of any note.
I agree that the mid level roles ( admirals and vulcans in this film) were all men. Not sure why. Might who they wanted to cast. No reason why the Vulcan master or Admiral Barnett couldn't have been played by women. Nothing in the way they were written calls for a man. Might be some old fashion values that required Olsen to be a man. Same for Robau. ( the the "redshirt" who gets sucked out of the Kelvin is a woman. She even has a line.)
We didnt see any other XOs other than G. Kirk, J. Kirk and Spock. Ditto for Captains, Robau, Pike, Kirk and Spock. Only Robau could possibly have possibly been female. Scotty and Olsen are the only engineers. Though Sulu's relief at helm is a woman and she has an actual line!!!! And the Transporter Chief who trys to beam up Kirk and Sulu from the drill is also a woman!!! Just like yer fav Janice Rand!
And there's this scene:
On the Kelvin, one of the people at Starfleet reveiwing what the Kelvin has transmitted is a woman. A woman is also seen giving out damage stats.
So I think women are doing a little more than answering the phone, bandaging boo boos and serving coffee.
We didnt see any other XOs other than G. Kirk, J. Kirk and Spock. Ditto for Captains, Robau, Pike, Kirk and Spock. Only Robau could possibly have possibly been female. Scotty and Olsen are the only engineers. Though Sulu's relief at helm is a woman and she has an actual line!!!! And the Transporter Chief who trys to beam up Kirk and Sulu from the drill is also a woman!!! Just like yer fav Janice Rand!
And there's this scene:
So a lady takes the conn and another one is giving out scientific data!!!!
On the Kelvin, one of the people at Starfleet reveiwing what the Kelvin has transmitted is a woman. A woman is also seen giving out damage stats.
So I think women are doing a little more than answering the phone, bandaging boo boos and serving coffee.
I agree that the mid level roles ( admirals and vulcans in this film) were all men. Not sure why. Might who they wanted to cast. No reason why the Vulcan master or Admiral Barnett couldn't have been played by women. Nothing in the way they were written calls for a man. Might be some old fashion values that required Olsen to be a man. Same for Robau. ( the the "redshirt" who gets sucked out of the Kelvin is a woman. She even has a line.)
We didnt see any other XOs other than G. Kirk, J. Kirk and Spock. Ditto for Captains, Robau, Pike, Kirk and Spock. Only Robau could possibly have possibly been female. Scotty and Olsen are the only engineers. Though Sulu's relief at helm is a woman and she has an actual line!!!! And the Transporter Chief who trys to beam up Kirk and Sulu from the drill is also a woman!!! Just like yer fav Janice Rand!
And there's this scene:
So a lady takes the conn and another one is giving out scientific data!!!!
On the Kelvin, one of the people at Starfleet reveiwing what the Kelvin has transmitted is a woman. A woman is also seen giving out damage stats.
So I think women are doing a little more than answering the phone, bandaging boo boos and serving coffee.
Heh heh - yeah, there are some women but there are still more noticeable men, particularly as you say, higher up the chain.
'Banaging boo boos'
Stereotypical or not, I really hope someone gets to do that in the sequel! And Janice may be a mincing coffee machine but yeah, I want to see her too, preferably as a security-trained Buffy-style yeoman.TOS also had a few repeat female characters like Ensign Martine or Lt Palmer (2 episodes each). I really wanted to see Diana Muldaur as Ann Mulhall again though - she was a Lt-commander, an engineer, and an astrobiologist, and they made it clear that she could have given Kirk a run for his money - what's not to love?
The female officer given the conn, did she order that all but one of the vast nuEnterprise's many transporter rooms to beam up as many Vulcans from the surface as possible? Especially after she learned the black hole was began to expand? No? What a fine conn officer she was, apparently she wasn't intelligent enough to realize that as conn officer she was totally and legally in actual command of the ship and not just keeping the command chair warm with her shapely ass until one of the men folk came back.And there's this scene:
So a lady takes the conn and another one is giving out scientific data!!!!
But then again, she's just a woman and no one should expect too much from her.
The Female science officer, reported that the ship wouldn't reach minimum safe distance if the ship didn't leave immediately. They in fact didn't leave immediately and the ship still departed Vulcan orbit quite safely. So what we had there is a typical 1960's over-reacting hysterical female, just great. Maybe we can "re-boot" her out the air lock.
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I've always noticed the female crew who can forget them nice legs knee high boots and mini skirts and bee hive hair styles to die for !!!!!
The female officer given the conn, did she order that all but one of the vast nuEnterprise's many transporter rooms to beam up as many Vulcans from the surface as possible? Especially after she learned the black hole was began to expand? No? What a fine conn officer she was, apparently she wasn't intelligent enough to realize that as conn officer she was totally and legally in actual command of the ship and not just keeping the command chair warm with her shapely ass until one of the men folk came back.And there's this scene:
So a lady takes the conn and another one is giving out scientific data!!!!
But then again, she's just a woman and no one should expect too much from her.
The Female science officer, reported that the ship wouldn't reach minimum safe distance if the ship didn't leave immediately. They in fact didn't leave immediately and the ship still departed Vulcan orbit quite safely. So what we had there is a typical 1960's over-reacting hysterical female, just great. Maybe we can "re-boot" her out the air lock.
Hey, I want more women in decent roles - I didn't say I wanted them to be smart.
My beloved Janice only passed her starfleet exams by getting the examiner to look at her legs.
Did the Enterprise on TNG only have two female crewmembers?
I'm sorry but it's an ignorant question. There is too much information freely available to debunk such a silly observation.
Well, if a question is asked by someone for whom English is not a first language, they may not realise that leaving out the word 'recurring' in the question would lead to derision instead of discussion.
Sure, the short answer to either question is 'no' but this is a discussion forum! I think sarcasm is part of the fun but it helps if the sarcasm is included in a post that makes some effort to move the discussion forward.
There's no doubt that every incarnation of Trek has been a bit short on women. Although the roles of those women have improved (from yeoman & nurse to captain & chief engineer) the numbers haven't really improved that much.
They had a female redshirt.
Granted, she didn't actually wear red and she was presented as a main character for a while, but in the end she was a redshirt.
I dont think that just because the character is killed they are a "redshirt". I've always had the impression that a redshirt is a specific type of character. A character with little or no lines who's main purpose is to die. A regular character or a guest star whom the episode is build around who dies is not a redshirt. (even if it's the regular characters swan song)
Sounds like Tasha Yar to me. YMMV.
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