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Did Natasha Yarr deserve that sort of death?

Yeah, the last time the spread was mentioned here, people were complaining she was rather "boyish" (lady boyish?).

Without having seen the pics, I always got the impression in her 'cat-suit' that she had a more atheltic build, which would cut her down a bit in the bust department. Coupled with the boy-cropped-hair, I can see the complaints.
 
How about the actor who being unprofessional and exits from a contract? :confused::confused:

It's not unprofessional to ask about early release. It throws up options the writers can use to everyone's advantage: eg. Wil Wheaton.

Unprofessional is simply refusing to report to the set, despite the contractual obligation to be there: seemingly Charlie Sheen, Farrah Fawcett, Valerie Harper, John Drew Barrymore. Delaying production, inconveniencing colleagues, costing studios money. But since we weren't there for those either decisions, perhaps they, too, had very good reasons for refusing to return as expected.
 
Yeah, the last time the spread was mentioned here, people were complaining she was rather "boyish" (lady boyish?).

Without having seen the pics, I always got the impression in her 'cat-suit' that she had a more atheltic build, which would cut her down a bit in the bust department. Coupled with the boy-cropped-hair, I can see the complaints.

Seeing the Playboy pictures, she's not that muscular, she just has a small frame, small boobs, and short hair. Ladyboy, as said above, sums it up nicely. Not saying she doesn't offer a certain degree of cuteness or that she should have been ashamed of herself and her body it's just not my type.

Long(er) hair and boobs are important to me in the physicality department.
 
Well Tasha Yar was part of a landing party that was beamed down to save survivors of a crashed shuttle, she was killed in the act of defying the creature who was keeping them from reaching it. Not an ignoble death by any means. Do we say people who dive in to save people from drowning but who also drown quickly are not heroic? I think not.

RAMA
 
I always felt that TNG violated a single, unpardonable rule in writing with this episode. "Don't let the backstage drama affect the quality of your work." This certainly did. The entire episode was based around 'killing off Yar", badly. If it weren't for the funeral scene at the end, it would easily be one of Star Trek's worst episodes of all time (TM).

The episode was nothing more than saying 'fuck you' to Denise Crosby and it reeked of that fact.

Hmm? This doesn't jibe with Crosby's thoughts of the episode...she said if her character was written more the way she was in this episode, she'd have stayed...

RAMA
 
Hmm? This doesn't jibe with Crosby's thoughts of the episode...she said if her character was written more the way she was in this episode, she'd have stayed...

Well, these days she says lots of things about Star Trek that have nothing to do with what she thought back then.
She shows up in all sorts of Star Trek specials, conventions, dvd commentaries and so on which I think is quite absurd considering she thought she was too good for Trek when she left TNG.

I guess realizing that you don't have a career at all without Trek kind of helps putting things back into perspective. :devil:
 
Hmm? This doesn't jibe with Crosby's thoughts of the episode...she said if her character was written more the way she was in this episode, she'd have stayed...

It was a nice way to end the episode, but the first 40 minutes? Honestly...
 
Well, these days she says lots of things about Star Trek that have nothing to do with what she thought back then.

The quote that if more episodes had Yar lines as strong as her funeral speech in "Skin of Evil" then she'd have stayed with the show, was in the days/weeks of leaving TNG. "Starlog" magazine, IIRC.

she thought she was too good for Trek when she left TNG.
No, she thought she could have been given more of the material she'd been promised when hired, and as described in the writers' bible.

It was a nice way to end the episode, but the first 40 minutes? Honestly...

And I thought the episode - and Armus, and Riker being dragged into the entity with an open mouth - succeeded in being wonderfully creepy/suspenseful/science fictiony, and topped off with the very moving funeral.
 
Well, these days she says lots of things about Star Trek that have nothing to do with what she thought back then.

The quote that if more episodes had Yar lines as strong as her funeral speech in "Skin of Evil" then she'd have stayed with the show, was in the days/weeks of leaving TNG. "Starlog" magazine, IIRC.

Funny enough because I thought the end was even worse than the trashy first 40 minutes. The start was just campy, the end was terribly cheesy and overly melodramatic. Typical Hollywood crap.

I get it, somebody dies. But all the melodramatic lines about Picard being like a father for her seem kind of ridiculous if you consider that the crew had known each other for less than a year at the time.
 
But all the melodramatic lines about Picard being like a father for her seem kind of ridiculous if you consider that the crew had known each other for less than a year at the time.

From clues in dialogue in various episodes, Picard must have met Yar earlier, and remembered her for the crew when he was appointed. In fact, Christopher L Bennett addresses this in the ST novel, "The Buried Age".
 
But all the melodramatic lines about Picard being like a father for her seem kind of ridiculous if you consider that the crew had known each other for less than a year at the time.

From clues in dialogue in various episodes, Picard must have met Yar earlier, and remembered her for the crew when he was appointed. In fact, Christopher L Bennett addresses this in the ST novel, "The Buried Age".

Thanks for that, I had forgotten about it. The Picard line was just a random example for the melodramatic lines in that episode finale, though.
 
Hmm? This doesn't jibe with Crosby's thoughts of the episode...she said if her character was written more the way she was in this episode, she'd have stayed...

Well, these days she says lots of things about Star Trek that have nothing to do with what she thought back then.
She shows up in all sorts of Star Trek specials, conventions, dvd commentaries and so on which I think is quite absurd considering she thought she was too good for Trek when she left TNG.

I guess realizing that you don't have a career at all without Trek kind of helps putting things back into perspective. :devil:

She said that as soon as she left the show. Its not recent.

Hmm? This doesn't jibe with Crosby's thoughts of the episode...she said if her character was written more the way she was in this episode, she'd have stayed...

It was a nice way to end the episode, but the first 40 minutes? Honestly...

She's referring to the whole episode..where she was talking to Worf about her martial arts matches, and the amount lines she got I suppose too.

RAMA
 
I get the fact that Skin of Evil has a lot of haters. I'm just not one of them. I remember watching it the first night it aired, and at the end I was like, WTF? They killed off Tasha for real? TOS never offed a main character. Plenty of Red Shirts, but never a main character. Because of that, I can remember the uncertainty of Stewart's return after BOBW, for Season 4 was heightened that much more over that summer. The thinking was, well it wouldn't be the first time.

As far as Episode quality goes. I understand why much of the younger crowd doesn't get it. Armus looked like a moving oil slick. It was the best they could do at the time. Keep in mind, it was still Season 1, F/X were still pretty limited. I rewatched SoE just a few weeks ago. I was impressed by how the ep had a very TOS feel to it. Its big problem is that Armus doesn't come off as near as menacingly as it should. Had they been able to pull Armus off properly, the episode could have been down right scary. I mean we're talking about the crew having a face off with pure evil and it has proven that it will kill on a whim. Over all, I thought it was a pretty good Season 1 ep.
 
I remember watching it the first night it aired, and at the end I was like, WTF?

We saw it as a group, with a tape sent to Australia by a penpal, and we'd heard that Tasha was being written out, but the episode was constructed to offer so many different jolts. Tashas's dead, but then she's in sick bay and Bev seems to be reviving her, but no, she's really gone. And then she's back to present her own eulogy.

Because of that, I can remember the uncertainty of Stewart's return after BOBW, for Season 4 was heightened that much more over that summer. The thinking was, well it wouldn't be the first time.

Definitely!
 
That's not exactly exclusive to TNG. It's fairly "common" for TV series to ruin the characters of actors who want out of their contracts and off the show. Just ask David Caruso and Kal Penn.

OK. Kal Penn, what do you think of your character's exit from House?

Kal Penn: "One of the things I love about our show is you never know what’s going to happen....
Ultimately, it was a really interesting choice for them to make...
And as a testament to David and Katie, that’s a huge risk. ‘Cause it is going to make people upset, and it is going to piss off some of the audience. And, ultimately, in my opinion, that’s what art really is — when you can conjure up those kinds of emotions."

[quoted from the interview here http://insidetv.ew.com/2009/04/07/house-exclusive/]
 
What kind of death do people think she deserved?

- Killed by a control panel blowing out? (many eps)
- Killed by phaser set to kill since she became a parasitic queen host? (Conspiracy)
- Killed by an exploding panel loaded with rocks? (Yesterday's Enterprise)
- Half phased thru a floor? (In Theory)
- Killed by an arrogant space probe? (The Changeling)
- turned into a styrofoam cube then crushed? (By Any Other Name)
- eaten by a gigantic worm? (Basics Part II)
- dessicated by a tail slap from a killer space dolphin? (Equinox I/II)
- killed by another crewman with plausible deniability? (Genesis, The Raven, Empok Nor)

Being killed by one of the more memorable aliens/creatures from Season 1, a giant angry oil slick isn't that bad.
 
Tasha Yarr
Got smoked by some Tarr
She's now with some Starrs
She's our Natasha Yarr
 
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