Did Kirk ever meet Sarek before Journey to Babel ? I bumped into Mark Lenard at the only Trek convention I ever went to, It was january 1987. i was there with a broken right wrist from falling down on the ice . I saw Mr. Nimoy up on the stage and jane Wyatt who i think recently passed away .
Did Kirk meet Sarek before Journey to Babel ?
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No.
And they're not gay.
And they're not gay.
You're mistaken. The original draft to "Journey to Babel" included an uncomfortable scene between Kirk and Spock after he found out that Sarek was Spock's father.
In the original, it turns out that the young Kirk was sent to Vulcan for therapy after his experiences on Tarsus IV. He was so distraught by the carnage under Kodos that he had become almost catatonic.
The services of a Vulcan expert in melding with a human were required, and that obviously led to Sarek. Their melds were so deep and so satisfying that the relationship was taken to a physical level, as it had been with Amanda.
It's really too bad that Stanley Robertson at NBC wasn't more open-minded (which you might have expected from an African-American in the 60s). Still, even if it had made it past him, it would never have made it past the network execs.
That's what I thought, but this guy's obviously an insider, as I've only been able to find out about these things using a connection at the UCLA library who has let me look at a number of manuscripts that totally change the way I look at TOS.
The OP knows how the stories were supposed to have proceeded. That's the only explanation I can think of.
Oh dear god don't encourage him.
No - and that was pretty clearly explained in the episode. Captain Kirk asked if Spock wanted to beam to Vulcan to visit his parents and Spock said that Sarek and Amanda were his parents. Had Kirk met them prior it'd be highly likely he would have known they were the parents.
Not necessarily. If the contact had been professional only, Kirk could well have known Sarek without knowing he was Spock's father. I mean it's not like Sarek is going to be volunteering the information.
It does not seem as if Kirk met Sarek before. He certainly did not know Sarek was Spock's father.
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In the Corbomite Maneuver, commenting about Balok, Spock says, "I regret not having learned more about this Balok. In many ways, he was reminiscent of my father."
Scotty: "Then may heaven have helped your mother."
Spock: "On the contrary; she considered herself a most fortunate Earth woman."
Note the use of the past tense, indicating that they are dead.
Scotty: "Then may heaven have helped your mother."
Spock: "On the contrary; she considered herself a most fortunate Earth woman."
Note the use of the past tense, indicating that they are dead.
Yes it would.
You do realize that in responding to the OP you're responding in a serious manner to a known spammer whose spamming pattern has been to ask inane questions, many having to do with the supposed homosexuality of several TOS characters, right?
Or have you emerged from your TNZ cocoon just to follow me around the board?
TheLonelySquire
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She understands.
I'm sure the human half of him regretted that his whole life.
Spock IS allowed to love his mother. But his society frowns on his expressing it to anyone on Vulcan...and since Spock has always considered himself a full Vulcan (despite knowing the facts to the contrary), he always regretted it. Always made perfect sense to me, even back in the early '70s (got into TOS on it's first nationally-syndicated run).
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