Did Geordie marry a REAL girl?

[Guy Gardener]

Geordie always came off as creepy to me.

Maybe its because he had zero toxic masculinity, it seemed like he had zero masculinity.

There was a reason that only the Robot would spend time with him.

Sigh.

In the anti time future from the All Good Things..., It's barely touched on that Geordie has a romantic partnership with someone or something called "Leah".

You would assume that it's "Leah Brahms" a human woman whom we have met, who has forgiven LaForge for fornicating with her holographic duplicate without written permission, because the automated sex doll industry was in its infancy when this episode aired, and now it isn't.

Did Geordie marry a hologram?

Is the real Leah okay with this, or is she suing Geordie to murder his wife?

Or was it the real Leah's idea, so that Geordie La Forge would stop stalking her?

If so, did his "friends" conclude that a holographic slave as an intimacy surrogate is better than no one, and none of them was going to consider an intervention until after the La Forges had kids?

Barclay dying a virgin is a cautionary story.

Reg would have had a much happier life if only they had let him keep diddling Holo Deanna.

 

[Orphalesion]

I like to think that Geordie marrying Leah Brahms Was just some nonsense part of that future in All Good Things that ever ended up happening (like Troi dying)
Because Geordie creeping on her until her merriage failed and then somehow convincing her to pity-marry him is all kinds of creepy and messed up.
Though I guess him marrying some sort of sapent(?) Leah hologram would actually be the less creepy option.

It's really unfortunate what the writers did with the character Nd how creepy and pathetic they portrayed him as in his relationships with women he found himself attracted to.
I'm gonna be optimistic and say that in the actual future of TNG he eventually underwent some personal development and at some point entered a healthy relationship with a woman (NOT Leah) whom he married.

 

[Dukhat]

Normally I would have said that you're talking nonsense. But then we see another alternate future in "Endgame" where the Doctor is married to a human. So obviously in these timelines, that's a possibility.

And it actually makes sense, from a certain point of view. Obviously the original intent of the 'Leah' line in AGT was that Geordi did in fact marry Leah Brahms. The problem with that theory, as was mentioned above, is that he and the real Brahms didn't have much chemistry, and it makes him look like he was leeching onto her after her hubby died/got divorced/etc. But if she's just a hologram, that's different. However, I would think that the real Brahms would have something to say about him using her image as his wife, seeing as how she got freaked out when she found his original program of her.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Leah La Forge... LL? She's allowed to date Superman.

You make Steel in a forge.

Geordie is the man of steel.

Geordie is short for George?

George LaForge.

His name rhymes.

If he wasn't blind, Geordie should have been bullied for that as a child.

Which would have awarded the man a more rounded personality.

 

[Oddish]

Geordi happened to meet another young woman named Leah. They fell in love, they got married. She's made of flesh.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Geordi happened to meet another young woman named Leah. They fell in love, they got married. She's made of flesh.

Geordi met another young woman who answered to Leah, she liked his stuff, they got married. She's made of flesh.

There's no money, but there's status.

There are luxuries, like space, afforded to star ship commanders that the artist class can only dream about.

Did Roddenberry's paradise end prostitution?

 

[Oddish]

Probably on Earth. If there's no money, then there can't really be prostitution, since prostitution is by definition the trading of money for sex.

If the Federation actually does use money, then it's probably legal, regulated, and taxed.

 

[XCV330]

Barclay dying a virgin is a cautionary story.

Barclay got more tail than a toilet seat. He's just picky, that's all. All of Star Trek is from Riker's point of view. Maybe Troi stayed over after Pathfinder was successful.

 

[Orphalesion]

Well if we follow Roddenberry's ideas as they existed in early TNG...then prostitution can't possible exist, since everybody has causal and meaningless sex at the drop of a hat, with "love instructors" being an integral part of society and whatnot.

You can't exactly sell something everybody around you is giving away for free.

Probably on Earth. If there's no money, then there can't really be prostitution, since prostitution is by definition the trading of money for sex.

If the Federation actually does use money, then it's probably legal, regulated, and taxed.

I think what Guy Gardner is suggesting is more along the lines of some woman becoming Geordie's wife and allowing him to call her "Leah" (and possibly make her style her hair like Brahm's too) to leech of his status and any benefits that might bring, becoming a trophy wife, so to say.

 

[Oddish]

You can't exactly sell something everybody around you is giving away for free.

You can if they only give it to certain people. A tall handsome dude in a Starfleet uniform will have ladies dripping off him right and left. An overweight geeky dude with pimples will either have to pay for it, or give his right arm a workout.

I think what Guy Gardner is suggesting is more along the lines of some woman becoming Geordie's wife and allowing him to call her "Leah" (and possibly make her style her hair like Brahm's too) to leech of his status and any benefits that might bring, becoming a trophy wife, so to say.

Yeah, I got it. Unfortunately. Blechhh!

 

[Qonundrum]

You can if they only give it to certain people. A tall handsome dude in a Starfleet uniform will have ladies dripping off him right and left. An overweight geeky dude with pimples will either have to pay for it, or give his right arm a workout.

What about the left-handed?

 

[Oddish]

Right, left, or switch hitter, the point is the same. Obscure dad jokes, promotion on Star Trek, and a good satisfying wild mambo session in any century past or future all have one thing in common.

Not everybody gets it.

 

[Guy Gardener]

What about the left-handed?

Colonel Green got rid of those a££holes centuries ago.

 

[Qonundrum]

Couldn't he just be bi or gay, instead? He always wanted to fit in and couldn't... the only thing missing is being sexually assaulted by a woman.

Never noticed the creepazoid factor. Just social awkwardness, of a sort more relatable to Barclay than not, in at least the dating aspect... Especially as it's the computer setting up the massage routine from the AI-generated personality, based only on known information to the computer, complete with charmingly whopping great 9.37% margin of error... Now coupled with the real Leah taking the computer program out of context, not to mention there's zero indication that Geordi kept going back in there to load that program even once after the events of "Booby Trap", a story whose name isn't all that much a double entendre... fortunately.

The Data/Geordi friendship just seemed to be the most natural/least contrived thing to come about in the show's development. I doubt they diddled, and Geordi wouldn't feel any better afterward. Data has no emotions.

How is Barclay dying a virgin a cautionary story? Given how much more communicable and harder to treat STDs are nowadays, it's more than idle optimism to believe that Gene's fantasy utopia allows free coitus for all and all diseases are eradicated. The only thing missing is the unicorn clock pooping rainbows every hour on the hour. At times, I got the impression Gene should have written for "Logan's Run" instead, seems more believable there... His rewrites of "Justice" would have fit in far better over there...

"Galaxy's Child" is a bit of a weird story anyway, especially how quick she is to belittle the feat of engineering needed to adapt the engines and ship to so many situations. She's not even curious, all she does is gripe. For future evolved sensibilities, her attitude made season 1 Picard's nosed-up pompous moments of how great humanity now is seem positively on par. I'd have expected a bit of both aspects from her... both genuine interest and some derision, but not popping-mad the moment her last molecule beams into place. How would such a designer NOT know that these components wouldn't be changed in real life situations, off the cuff, in unforeseen circumstances? Is there a protocol not being adhered to? And if he didn't "foul her engines", she wouldn't be there at all because the ship would have gone boom boom splodeysplat. That doesn't bode well for future seasons, letters of the alphabet be darned...

That said, there was one scene where I'll wholly and unequivocally agree Geordi was a bit creepy in that he knew a lot about her (favorite foods, etc) that would genuinely be out of place. Fortunately, the computer told him all about it and not by him asking outright for it. (He even said it wasn't right when computer-Leah started to AI-massage his shoulders after noticing how frustrated he was getting. But "Galaxy's Child" desperately needed a rewrite to comb out all the nitpicks from such a hairy script.)

All that said, at least it's unconventional. A generic, conventional love story is just phony mawkish sap. Conflict is where it's at. Meow!

 

[Qonundrum]

Right, left, or switch hitter, the point is the same. Obscure dad jokes, promotion on Star Trek, and a good satisfying wild mambo session in any century past or future all have one thing in common.

Not everybody gets it.

But as George Michael said, everybody should.

Silly jokes aside, your points were 100% correct.

Colonel Green got rid of those a££holes centuries ago.

Only because he was... Green with envy...

Spoiler

 

[Oddish]

A social outcast can be either handed, cishet or LGBTQ, any color of the spectrum, and have any degree of disability. The point is they exist in any century: people who don't quite fit in, can't reach traditional norms.

And they should exist. The alternative, seen in "A Wrinkle in Time" with the little boy who couldn't bounce a ball properly, is unthinkable.

 

[Guy Gardener]

"Booby trap" spelt backwards is "party boob" .

Leah had to go into witness protection to get away from Geordie.

Captain Erica Benteen.

Actually...

After the Coup... AND Leah/Erica has been cancelled, and lost all her status in either identity, and she's in jail for ten years...

Geordie is starting to look real good.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Geordi used his wish and his fairy godmother made her into a real girl.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Geordi comes across as an asexual desperately trying to get a girlfriend because that's what he feels is expected of him.

 

[Oddish]

The actress who played Leah (Susan Gibney, I think her name is) was in the running to play Janeway.

If she'd gotten the part, I can see the memes now: FLED 70,000 LIGHT YEARS TO ESCAPE GEORDI'S STALKING