Did Enterprise happen in this Star Trek's past?
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JJ Abrams probably laughs at Enterprise.
Nero doesn't go that far back in time, so yes.
Also, I believe Archer gets a mention in the film.
CaptainHawk1
Commodore
ENT doesn't exist in a lot of fan's past.
However, I've heard that the writers were careful to include references to all Trek in here including ENT and even non-canon novels and comic books.
However, I've heard that the writers were careful to include references to all Trek in here including ENT and even non-canon novels and comic books.
On the other hand we've seen a constitution class starship on Enterprise and it didn't look like JJ's Enterprise. This could be the Archer from ENT or a reboot Archer.
While everyone's unclear about just how the timeline coincides (if it does at all) with the TV show, the writers have made it very clear that Nero's point of entry happens right before Kirk is born, so there is *no* reboot Enterprise to speak of.
Rumor has it that Starfleet Academy will have a painting of the NX-01. Since it's a rumor, take it with a grain of salt, but if it pops up, then I'll be okay. I'd be even happier if there was an actual portrait of Admiral or President Jonathan Archer.
Nardpuncher
Rear Admiral
I'm pretty sure that the TV show Enterprise is referenced when
Scotty says he got in trouble for disintegrating Archer's beagle.
* Yeah. Now, Enterprise is the only Trek tv series that continues canon. TOS maybe can be similar, but TNG era is gone.
Enterprise isn't awesome enough. Plus, its lack of sombreros makes for a frightening canonical dissonance. But if it'll please the drooling masses, then I'll accept it.
The more interesting question: Which events of "Enterprise" did happen in this timeline? For example, the ENT episode "Regeneration" was a result of the events of "First Contact". So did the Enterprise-E and the Borg appear in 2063 in this timeline?
And then there's the entire "Temporal Cold War" which may or may not have happened, if the sociopolitical shape of the galaxy changes as much as it sounds like it may. Without that, first contact with the Klingons won't happen as early, the NX-01 wouldn't be launched when it was, etc, etc.
I saw someone state earlier that there was a Consitution Class in ENT and it looked like the TOS and not JJ's (obviously). But surely you can just throw the words "time travel" and "parrell universe" in there and it's all settled 
. Perhaps the Xindi (was it? I guess it was as whenever I watched ENT it was ALLLWAYS the Xindi) took it from the true timeline, then Nero came back and fucked everything up and the ships changed.
Ofcourse, you could just say wibbly wobbly... timey wimey, that works just as well.
. Perhaps the Xindi (was it? I guess it was as whenever I watched ENT it was ALLLWAYS the Xindi) took it from the true timeline, then Nero came back and fucked everything up and the ships changed.Ofcourse, you could just say wibbly wobbly... timey wimey, that works just as well.
You could perhaps make an argument that the relevant events of the 23rd and 24th centuries (Enterprise-E fighting the Borg in 2063, a Constitution-class starship named "Defiant" disappearing in a trans-dimensional rift etc.) still exist as part of an "alternate future" in this new timeline.
Look at "Yesterday's Enterprise" and Sela. An alternate Tasha Yar from a timeline which doesn't exist anymore travelled into the past and thus continued to be a part of "our" timeline. So the Enterprise-E could have been in 2063 despite the fact that a Enterprise-E doesn't necessarily exist in the new timeline's 24th century. Time travel is so confusing!!!
Look at "Yesterday's Enterprise" and Sela. An alternate Tasha Yar from a timeline which doesn't exist anymore travelled into the past and thus continued to be a part of "our" timeline. So the Enterprise-E could have been in 2063 despite the fact that a Enterprise-E doesn't necessarily exist in the new timeline's 24th century. Time travel is so confusing!!!
Remind me to take some earplugs when I go see it then.
Or a vomit bag.
Old Spock's sole reason for travelling back in time is to wipe "Enterprise" from existence, or die trying. It is his most important mission, and his most selfless act ever.
Spock (dying): "The franchise... Out of danger?"
Kirk: "You saved the franchise. You saved us all."
And let's not forget Captain Pike's inpirational challenge to Young Kirk:
Pike: "'Enterprise' was good for about 12 minutes, and was watched by 800 people. I dare you to do better."
Spock (dying): "The franchise... Out of danger?"
Kirk: "You saved the franchise. You saved us all."
And let's not forget Captain Pike's inpirational challenge to Young Kirk:
Pike: "'Enterprise' was good for about 12 minutes, and was watched by 800 people. I dare you to do better."
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