Did CBS Steal the Tardigrade Idea?

[Belz...]

Gee, I wish. But you're continuing to dodge my points and questions, mate. It's becoming pretty blatant by now. Why don't you give it a try?

To which "team" do you believe I belong here? Surely not those who think the plaintiff is correct, right?

The Staments (sic) character wasn't revealed until after Rapp's announcement.

So he can't be a rip off.

Sorry, I don't follow the logic here.

So, the first claim looks very specific but actually isn't.

Yeah but as I said, it's the sum total of the coincidences that raises questions, not each of them individually.

I haven't done intensive research, but every male couple on this list of interracial couples on TV also features a black female main character, except Brooklyn Nine-Nine which features two women of Latin American ancestry. I didn't check for red-haired women because a) it wasn't part of the original claim and b) I gotta be at a friend's place in three minutes.

Interracial gay couples are a bit more narrow, I'd think, especially since we're told we have to pick the shows randomly.

I'm not ignoring them. They're bullshit, and I said so.

Hopefully if I ever disagree with you I can just say, as I will say right now, that your arguments are BS, leave it at that, and you won't think I'm ignoring your points.

But rather than trying to endlessly think of random shows off the top of my head, I can't help but notice that you're not doing anything at all to try to engage the actual relevant arguments that have been made about why the 'similarities' around the characters are laughable claims. In fact, you went out of your way to delete them and only reply to things you apparently think are easy to refute with a pithy one-liner.

I responded to the things that made me want to respond. I don't see why that's a problem. By the way, you didn't actually respond to all _my_ points, so why is it ok for you but not for me?

 

[Tuskin38]

Sorry, I don't follow the logic here.

One of the characters he's claiming Stamets is ripping off wasn't revealed by him until after Anthony Rapps and Stamets were revealed by CBS.

Did you need to add the sic to my post? It's a direct quote.

 

[Belz...]

One of the characters he's claiming Stamets is ripping off wasn't revealed by him until after Anthony Rapps and Stamets were revealed by CBS.

Ok not revealed by him. I understood the opposite, hence my confusion.

Did you need to add the sic to my post? It's a direct quote.

Not sure what the problem is? I'm just pointing out the mistake. It wasn't meant as an attack.

 

[Tuskin38]

Sorry I overreacted

 

[Jinn]

Yeah but as I said, it's the sum total of the coincidences that raises questions, not each of them individually.

Well, they seem like pure coincidences to me, they don't go beyond "this actor has a passing resemblence with this pixel art". I just don't see the rationale that would lead them from "we're ripping off that game" to "let's cast an actress who looks vaguely similar to a random character in this game that has no similar character traits to the character our actress will portray". It just doesn't seem very logical to me.

Interracial gay couples are a bit more narrow, I'd think, especially since we're told we have to pick the shows randomly.

Sorry, I was in a hurry. That list was of interracial gay couples, I just forgot writing that. You can click on the link and see that it's true Only counting the male couples that's four shows that feature both a male interracial gay couple and a black women as a main character (plus Brooklyn Nine-Nine that has two female POC in its main cast).

 

[Refuge]

Yeah but as I said, it's the sum total of the coincidences that raises questions, not each of them individually.

I actually think that is key and he should use it as supporting evidence. I replayed the link in @Prax opening post (interesting topic by the way) and when the side by side comparisons are lined up they are pretty compelling. Most of all he is on record first.

 

[Belz...]

Well, they seem like pure coincidences to me, they don't go beyond "this actor has a passing resemblence with this pixel art".

I think it's more likely than not that you're right. I'm simply arguing that we can't dismiss it out of hand, for the reasons mentioned.

Sorry, I was in a hurry. That list was of interracial gay couples, I just forgot writing that.

Ok, thanks.

 

[Jinn]

I think it's more likely than not that you're right. I'm simply arguing that we can't dismiss it out of hand, for the reasons mentioned.

Well, I do think that it is possible that they stumbled over the game and got a bit inspired. I just don't believe for a second that all the other evidence holds any water.

 

[Belz...]

Oh don't get me wrong. As I said earlier I don't think he can prove it in court. I think he's just trying to prod CBS into a settlement.

 

[Red Panda]

Oh don't get me wrong. As I said earlier I don't think he can prove it in court. I think he's just trying to prod CBS into a settlement.

He does know CBS isn't that type of company? They're going to act to dismiss this case, and then go after him with a counter suit as punishment.

There's a photographer that's lost all his clients, savings and wife because he accused one of their small sports websites of stealing a photo, which CBS says they credited. They take this stuff really seriously. Like their lawyers will go after individuals, not just companies, because they need to keep themselves busy.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Yeah but as I said, it's the sum total of the coincidences that raises questions, not each of them individually.

That still makes no sense. How does having a black female character and a redhead, etc, raise questions? Why does any of this have anything to do with the tardigrade?

Hopefully if I ever disagree with you I can just say, as I will say right now, that your arguments are BS, leave it at that, and you won't think I'm ignoring your points.

Well, that is now the second time you've claimed that I said the argument was bs and gave no further detail, which is blatantly untrue. And then you pull this one out behind it:

I responded to the things that made me want to respond. I don't see why that's a problem. By the way, you didn't actually respond to all _my_ points, so why is it ok for you but not for me?

Which is just hilarious, considering you're the one who complained about me 'ignoring' things first. I responded, in detail, to a specific point. You handwaved all argument away without responding to any of the specific evidence presented that was relevant *to the argument you were responding to*. You even went so far as to chop one of my sentences in half and disingenuously pretend that what you quoted was the only thing I said about that character.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

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[Red Panda]

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These guys do realise this isn't the current newstory at CBS that'll prevent new investors from coming aboard? Even then, money talks and most investments are done by wealth management firms, not individuals. One series with a very questionable lawsuit against it isn't going to stop somebody investing in CBS.

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If you know these people are dickheads, why post the video?

 

[Red Panda]

Wait up, it's a Midnight's Edge video. They are absolute garbage, and all of their subscribers are too.

 

[Philip Guyott]

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I can't stand that YouTube channel, they are always so negative, always citing information form so-called insider sources that can never be verified.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

If you know these people are dickheads, why post the video?

Well I did not know that... I am sorry

 

[Red Panda]

Well I did not know that... I am sorry

I came off too strong, I'm sorry - no need to apologise!

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I came off too strong, I'm sorry - no need to apologise!

It's all cool.

 

[dahj]

Why don't you give it a try?

 

[Rahul]

Well, not quite. Yes, the Tardigrade's brain was required, but the Tartigrades DNA was also compatible with the spores and both elements were needed (IE Spores and a functional Brain to direct them).

The issue the Federation had was that to make a Human compatible with the Spores to the same degree, Genetic manipulation was required <---- Which since the Eugenics was illegal; hence what Stamets did to himself was illegal; but since it was successful, and there was a war on, Starfleet preferred no charges, but said, "Hey you're it, don't try this genetic manipulation on another Human again..."

Why didn't they ask a Denobulan?
Genetic manipulation is allowed there...