Did CBS Steal the Tardigrade Idea?

[Krandor]

Yeah but it's not just the grades but the idea of instantaneous cosmic travel, plus, from what I understand, some similar characters. It's the convergence of coincidences that makes it more unlikely. Also, apparently the DSC spore idea at first was very different, but it got changed after they changed showrunners.

The instantanious travel was possible without a tardigrade. They were never needed to make that happen. They were just needed to navigate the mycellion network and Bryan Fuller has documented interests in Stamets, Mushrooms, and Mycellium network prior to DSC.

So DSC could travel instantaneous WITHOUT a tardigrade and did. In his game, travel required a tardigrade to hug you to transport you

Where is the theft?

 

[Krandor]

Would you repost your math? I must've missed it. Unless your claim is that someone hit the "random" button, if there is on, on Steam and found the game. Like, no one could possibly have told someone else about this game or found it in a search, right? It's the 747-by-tornado argument, essentially.

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This is the problem. In a court case it isn't on CBS to prove somebody didn't stumble upon his game but HE has to prove they did. based on what has been presented I don't see anyway he can prove that. The burden is on him to prove infringement not on CBS to prove they didn't and based on what has been presented so far he hasn't.

I am sure he is going to try to press for info in discovery to show somebody on the DSC team knew something but I think most of those are going to be shut down as "fishing expedition".

Unless this guy can say "Bob Jones visited my website on x/x/xxx" and is a writer on DSC he is going to have a tough hill to climb especially with this being an UNRELEASED game and so somebody who wanted to steal would have to go through 6 years of dev blogs to steal all his content.

 

[Mudd]

Overthinking is a hell of a thing.

 

[Refuge]

I feel sorry for the guy. He has this game and he then feels obliged to defend himself that he didn't copy Discovery, lol, even though they came up with their idea (cough) after him.

 

[Belz...]

The instantanious travel was possible without a tardigrade. They were never needed to make that happen.

That is entirely irrelevant.

In a court case it isn't on CBS to prove somebody didn't stumble upon his game but HE has to prove they did. based on what has been presented I don't see anyway he can prove that. The burden is on him to prove infringement not on CBS to prove they didn't and based on what has been presented so far he hasn't.

Oh, I don't think he can meet that proof, don't misunderstand. What I'm saying is that it's plausible that he's correct.

 

[Tuskin38]

Really? What do you know that I don't?

The stories would have already been written.

 

[Refuge]

That is entirely irrelevant.




Oh, I don't think he can meet that proof, don't misunderstand. What I'm saying is that it's plausible that he's correct.

If it were a jury thing and I was on the jury I would believe him.

 

[Red Panda]

I feel sorry for the guy. He has this game and he then feels obliged to defend himself that he didn't copy Discovery, lol, even though they came up with their idea (cough) after him.

You don't really know this for certain. Various ideas from Discovery could be much older than 2015, and were put on the backburner until now. If this ends up going to court, CBS would need to provide evidence they didn't steal from the game, including perhaps submitting treatments and ideas that predate the game's public unveiling.

Side note, if the guy doing the lawsuit is now worried the Kuwait government will punish him for making the game (which goes against local decency laws or something like that) he should have thought twice before doing this. There are Star Trek fans that believe in Qnon for fuck's sake, did he not think this would travel far and fast?

 

[CorporalClegg]

UNRELEASED game .

It's not just an unreleased game. It's an unreleased, unlicensed, solo independent project. Before 0ctober 18, 2017 it was nothing more than a hobby that might, maybe, possibly turn out to be something someday.

It's basically the equivalent of someone writing a long fan-fic and posting it on WordPress in small chunks over several years and then carefully selecting a few paragraphs that kind of, sort of resemble something on TV.

 

[Belz...]

The stories would have already been written.

Presumably.

 

[Red Panda]

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[CorporalClegg]

Trekyards.

 

[Red Panda]

Trekyards.

Are they the Star Trek equivalent to influencers?

 

[CorporalClegg]

I think of them as what Justin Long's character in Galaxy Quest would have grown up to be if he never went on any cool adventures.

...And used a PC.

 

[Awesome Possum]

How did you determine it was more likely, given all the convergent elements?

Tardigrades are real and can actually survive in space, they were a fairly popular science topic shortly before both projects began. Making it larger and capable to space travel isn’t that large of a leap. Both likely came up with it independently since it’s hardly an obscure topic. I find it laughable that anyone could think one ripped off the other.

 

[Tuskin38]

Presumably.

This game didn't start gaining attention until after the show started airing.

So yeah, the episodes would have been written and filmed.

 

[Refuge]

Which is more likely? Someone from Discovery appropriates some themes picked up from the Internet or some nobody gamer gets his ideas from the super secretive production? Somehow before them?

 

[Tuskin38]

Saw a summary of the game on reddit, dunno how accurate it is, but wow

 

[Awesome Possum]

Which is more likely? Someone from Discovery appropriates some themes picked up from the Internet or some nobody gamer gets his ideas from the super secretive production? Somehow before them?

Or they both thought tardigrades were cool and used them independently?

 

[Refuge]

Or they both thought tardigrades were cool and used them independently?

That's possible too or it could even be subliminal. We're bombarded with so many influences and images that half the time you think you've come up with some clever little idea and someone else has done the same.