Presumably it has a history as a secret military hospital. I doubt they would take the Space Pig to any bog-standard NHS trust.
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Presumably it has a history as a secret military hospital. I doubt they would take the Space Pig to any bog-standard NHS trust.
One thing about The Five Doctors that bothers me. When Doc #1 and Susan walks into the TARDIS for the first time, and Doc #5 sees Susan....he was like "Eh, no biggy"....yet he has not seen her for at LEAST 300 years. Doc #2 said he was 450 in Tomb of the Cybermen, and 750 in Pyramids of Mars, and I bet at least several more decades between and after those times....I would have though the Doc would have been nearly in tears and thrown his arms around Susan. Anyone else feel the same about this part?
That's quite typical of the way the original series handled moments like that. What always struck me as a bit odd was, the way Susan is looking at Doc #5 in those TARDIS scenes. The look of love in her eyes was not the type of love, usually, exchanged between a grandfather and granddaughter.
Perhaps, but that's not what's said in dialogue.
One thing about The Five Doctors that bothers me. When Doc #1 and Susan walks into the TARDIS for the first time, and Doc #5 sees Susan....he was like "Eh, no biggy"....yet he has not seen her for at LEAST 300 years. Doc #2 said he was 450 in Tomb of the Cybermen, and 750 in Pyramids of Mars, and I bet at least several more decades between and after those times....I would have though the Doc would have been nearly in tears and thrown his arms around Susan. Anyone else feel the same about this part?
That's quite typical of the way the original series handled moments like that. What always struck me as a bit odd was, the way Susan is looking at Doc #5 in those TARDIS scenes. The look of love in her eyes was not the type of love, usually, exchanged between a grandfather and granddaughter.
Well the tenth Doctor didn't rush forward to hug Sarah Jane when he found her again in School Reunion, he only hugged her at the end. And he wasn't happy when Jackie hugged him in Army Of Ghosts.
One thing about The Five Doctors that bothers me. When Doc #1 and Susan walks into the TARDIS for the first time, and Doc #5 sees Susan....he was like "Eh, no biggy"....yet he has not seen her for at LEAST 300 years. Doc #2 said he was 450 in Tomb of the Cybermen, and 750 in Pyramids of Mars, and I bet at least several more decades between and after those times....I would have though the Doc would have been nearly in tears and thrown his arms around Susan. Anyone else feel the same about this part?
That's quite typical of the way the original series handled moments like that. What always struck me as a bit odd was, the way Susan is looking at Doc #5 in those TARDIS scenes. The look of love in her eyes was not the type of love, usually, exchanged between a grandfather and granddaughter.
She was checking him out, I know.
This is why I think she's not his grand daughter literally. I think she was just a girl Time Lord who the Doc took in.
Originally, she was just gonna be a girl not related to the Doc, but the suits were not comfortable about a young girl traveling with an old man. Yet I bet those same suits in fact HAD such young things they'd see after work....it's typically the case.
One thing I dislike about the new series...the public is ALWAYS panicking in terror whenever ANYTHING happens. 
One thing I dislike about the new series...the public is ALWAYS panicking in terror whenever ANYTHING happens.
Eh? I mean, I recall public panic during the Auton attack in "Rose," after the Slitheen ship destroyed Big Ben in "Aliens of London," after the Sycorax ship showed up and mind mojo'ed a third of the planet's population into standing on the edge of anything tall in "The Christmas Invasion," during the Battle of Canary Wharf in "Army of Ghosts"/"Doomsday," during the Racnoss attack in "The Runaway Bride, during the Toclafane Invasion in "The Sound of Drums" just after the British Prime Minister assassinated the President-elect of the United States, during the Atmos gas attack on the planet in "The Sontaran Stratagem"/"The Poison Sky," and during the Dalek Invasion in "The Stolen Earth"/"Journey's End."
Which, well, frankly, considering that those are all either large-scale alien invasions or unexpected first contact situations... I can't say I blame them for panicking! The world keeps looking doomed until the Doctor saves the day at the last minute!
I wanna see the bit where the Dr. got her a red bike for X-mas as a kid.
Oh I loved that bit, it's just so throwaway and I love Billie's reaction!
Exactly. Plus it would be neat to see little Rose (the girl playing her in father's day was adorable) meet the Dr and or Captain Jack, since Jack told the Doc that he kept an eye on her during the 1990's, to make sure she was safe.
One thing about The Five Doctors that bothers me. When Doc #1 and Susan walks into the TARDIS for the first time, and Doc #5 sees Susan....he was like "Eh, no biggy"....yet he has not seen her for at LEAST 300 years. Doc #2 said he was 450 in Tomb of the Cybermen, and 750 in Pyramids of Mars, and I bet at least several more decades between and after those times....I would have though the Doc would have been nearly in tears and thrown his arms around Susan. Anyone else feel the same about this part?
I don't believe she called any of the other Doctors "Grandfather."
I also recall that in The Two Doctors, Doc #6 barely says a word to Jamie, acting like he only knew him in the way you might a friend of a friend of a friend.
I sometimes got the feeling that in these older episodes, they acted like each new Doctor was more a reincarnation: a NEW Doctor, new life, new memories. Doc #5 didn't have any strong reaction to Susan because he wasn't her grandfather, that old guy from his past life was her grandfather.
Glad they eventually got a better grip on the concept of regeneration. It sure would be neat to get a mention of Susan in the New Series. He was soooo close to mentioning her in the Doctor's Daughter....
The same way we know that Susan wasn't really The Valeyard in disguise.
Exactly. Plus it would be neat to see little Rose (the girl playing her in father's day was adorable) meet the Dr and or Captain Jack, since Jack told the Doc that he kept an eye on her during the 1990's, to make sure she was safe.
One thing about The Five Doctors that bothers me. When Doc #1 and Susan walks into the TARDIS for the first time, and Doc #5 sees Susan....he was like "Eh, no biggy"....yet he has not seen her for at LEAST 300 years. Doc #2 said he was 450 in Tomb of the Cybermen, and 750 in Pyramids of Mars, and I bet at least several more decades between and after those times....I would have though the Doc would have been nearly in tears and thrown his arms around Susan. Anyone else feel the same about this part?
I don't believe she called any of the other Doctors "Grandfather."
I also recall that in The Two Doctors, Doc #6 barely says a word to Jamie, acting like he only knew him in the way you might a friend of a friend of a friend.
I sometimes got the feeling that in these older episodes, they acted like each new Doctor was more a reincarnation: a NEW Doctor, new life, new memories. Doc #5 didn't have any strong reaction to Susan because he wasn't her grandfather, that old guy from his past life was her grandfather.
Glad they eventually got a better grip on the concept of regeneration. It sure would be neat to get a mention of Susan in the New Series. He was soooo close to mentioning her in the Doctor's Daughter....
Actually Six says some very nice things about Jamie in The Two Doctors. "I was always rather fond of Jamie" for example, and given his Doctor wasn't especially warm towards anyone it would have been weird if he had got all teary eyed!
Panicking for a first contact? I'd be breaking out the bottle of 40+ year scotch I have stashed away for such an occasion. I'd be ready to party and tell NASA what they can go do to themselves.
Panicking for a first contact? I'd be breaking out the bottle of 40+ year scotch I have stashed away for such an occasion. I'd be ready to party and tell NASA what they can go do to themselves.
Sure... if it's a peaceful contact. But when the alien ship destroys Big Ben before crashing, and the government looks paralyzed and unfunctional? I'd probably panic, too, though as much because my fellow Humans would be scaring me as anything else.
if they show up and pull an iD4, i'll panic. if they show up and pull a FC I'll be elated.
but if aliens arrive in saucers: DON'T GO NEAR LA!
but if aliens arrive in saucers: DON'T GO NEAR LA!
That's right, I forgot about that line, which is indeed rather high praise coming from Doc #6.
I guess I always focused more on how indifferent Doc #6 was when Doc# 2 and Jamie left.
Also, back to my earlier feeling that earlier writers and producers didn't feel they were the same person, when Doc #2 takes out the TARDIS remote control and Doc #6 cries something along the lines of, "Where did you get that? I've always wanted one!" Uh, he should know where he got it, and unless he's lost it (which I suppose is very likely, given the Doctor) he should still have it. Doc #2 says that privledges such as that come with age, except that Doc #2 is the younger of the two. The actor is older, but the character is younger. Tough concept to get your ahead around, I suppose.
In the five Doctors they kept calling Doc #5 "the kid" or "the young one" or things to that effect, and they treated Doc #1 as the wise old man, instead of the arrogant youth he likely would have been seen as (imagine you are 72, and and meet yourself at ages 54, age 36 and age 18. You'd probably find your 18 year old self an insufferable youngster, and your 18 year old self would probably think he's more clever than the lot of you combined.)
Given how young the actor who played Doc# 5 was, it would have been really funny if the other Doctors all called him an old geezer, and treated his young body as signs that he's having a sad little midlife crisis.
Panic kills.
Donna's grandfather seemed to be one of the ONLY ones in England, apart from The Doc and companions, to not panic, and he was one of those who did not get killed or even captured.
I remember one time I had a NASTY case of food poisoning in 2006, half my face was paralyzed, both my hands were balling up into fists and I was ABOUT to freak out....but I simply kept myself calm and said to me myself to chill out. And as I kept myself calmed down, the food poisoning began to get out of my system, and the paralysis began to subside.
Panic kills. If bit by a snake, it makes the poison move about your body more; if in freezing water, it makes you lose more air from your lungs; if bleeding, you lose more blood.
So, even if one has nasty aliens coming to kill/enslave you....you gotta avoid panicing, if you don't, you'll make it easier for them to kill/enslave you.
And by the end of "Journey's End", I wonder if the governments of the world will STILL try to find a cover story or to deny what happened, like they did with Canary Worf.
On the other hand, when First Doctor first showed up in the Fifth's TARDIS and started tramping around like he owned the place, Five mentioned to Tegan as an aside that he's mellowed in his old age.
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