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Details on "Countdown" movie prequel comic from IDW

A whole page and noone has asked the question on everyone's mind about anything to do with the new movie...

Will William Shatner be involved?
 
A whole page and noone has asked the question on everyone's mind about anything to do with the new movie...

Will William Shatner be involved?
Nobody's asked for two reasons: because the question has since been answered (he won't be), and because this thread isn't about the movie, it's about the prequel comic...
 
I am sure you guys will come up with some twisted method to tie everything up if there are any conflicts!

While we are on the subjects of comics, KRAD is there any movement on your "redshirts" mini-series for IDW?
 
While we are on the subjects of comics, KRAD is there any movement on your "redshirts" mini-series for IDW?
Not yet, no, but that means there's neither positive nor negative movement at present, which is actually good. :)
 
Hopefully this won't conflict with what we're doing in the books lately. Since any comics that Abrams, Kurtzman, and Orci are directly involved in are likely to be pretty close to canonical.

Going back to that original point - why should it be considered that way? You know as well as I do that if the makers of Star Trek XII chooses to contradict anything within the comics, they'll do it without a second thought. Unless they absolutely categorically say that you have got to read the comics before you see the film, then it'll still be just one theory of events before...

Paul
 
^^That's a good point. The comics probably won't be canonical in the strict sense. But since they come from the filmmakers, they're likely to be perceived by fans as "nearly" canonical, like Mosaic/Pathways. And if the books went a different way, there'd be all sorts of questions raised among fans about that. I guess I'm just hoping that the new wave of cannnnnnnon arguments raised in fandom by the movie and comic will be relatively mild. Although now that I think about it, I suppose any arguments raised by the comics vs. the novels will be quite minor compared to those raised by the film itself.
 
^^That's a good point. The comics probably won't be canonical in the strict sense. But since they come from the filmmakers, they're likely to be perceived by fans as "nearly" canonical, like Mosaic/Pathways. And if the books went a different way, there'd be all sorts of questions raised among fans about that. I guess I'm just hoping that the new wave of cannnnnnnon arguments raised in fandom by the movie and comic will be relatively mild. Although now that I think about it, I suppose any arguments raised by the comics vs. the novels will be quite minor compared to those raised by the film itself.

Given the quote in EW about fans crying heresy over the first scene, it sounds possible...!!
And both Mosaic/Pathways got contradicted by the show itself, if I remember rightly...
It's like all these Ultimate Editions of movies on DVD with extra footage: the first Bourne film's extended edition makes a nonsense of films 2 and 3, and isn't the cocoon sequence in Alien rendered pointless by stuff in the later ones. After all, to think of a recent Trek example, no one feels that Madden is important from Nemesis just because the film makers put him in (then deleted him) and it's included in the "canonical" novelisation - which surely has equal validity to this comics miniseries?
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And both Mosaic/Pathways got contradicted by the show itself, if I remember rightly...

Pathways certainly did; I think the only backstory chapter that's still compatible with canon is the Kes chapter, since Kes left the show before Jeri Taylor did. But I don't recall anything in Mosaic that's been contradicted.
 
But since they come from the filmmakers, they're likely to be perceived by fans as "nearly" canonical, like Mosaic/Pathways.

I recall members of Gene's Star Trek Office, when queried about canon issues and "that memo" of 1989, saying that "even Gene Roddenberry's novelisation" for TMP, which had lots of extra snippets, was not counted.
 
Honestly, Chris? I don't think we need to worry. In a recent interview, Alex actually said that he and Bob consider the novels to be canon!

Observe:

From http://www.ugo.com/movies/exclusive-star-trek-photo/?cur=interview:

Alex: To us "canon" is considered the original series onward, including the novels.
UGO: Even including the novels! Wow!
Hmm...this could be a good topic for a new thread....

Unfortunately he's only referring to the Shatnerverse novels. ;)
 
Honestly, Chris? I don't think we need to worry. In a recent interview, Alex actually said that he and Bob consider the novels to be canon!

They've said more than once that they consider the novels to have "canon value," but the novels they reference are older ones like Best Destiny and Spock's World. We don't know if they keep abreast of the current novel continuity. It isn't easy for busy screenwriter/producers to follow a monthly novel series, which is why books are not referenced by screen canon as a rule.
 
Honestly, Chris? I don't think we need to worry. In a recent interview, Alex actually said that he and Bob consider the novels to be canon!

They've said more than once that they consider the novels to have "canon value," but the novels they reference are older ones like Best Destiny and Spock's World. We don't know if they keep abreast of the current novel continuity. It isn't easy for busy screenwriter/producers to follow a monthly novel series, which is why books are not referenced by screen canon as a rule.

The impression I got when I interviewed them for the mag was that the older ones were books that they passed between them, and very definitely counted as part of the reason for their love of Star Trek. I didn't ask them about modern continuity - but will do next time!

Paul
 
Honestly, Chris? I don't think we need to worry. In a recent interview, Alex actually said that he and Bob consider the novels to be canon!

Observe:

From http://www.ugo.com/movies/exclusive-star-trek-photo/?cur=interview:

Alex: To us "canon" is considered the original series onward, including the novels.
UGO: Even including the novels! Wow!

Hmm...this could be a good topic for a new thread....
Except that it's already been discussed three or four times.:vulcan:
 
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