Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by Photoman15, Jun 8, 2019.
Watched episode 1 so far. It's not the same show.
That could be a blessing. It was pretty damn awful when I stopped watching in season 1.
It's not the same show (lots of TV-MA swearing, and sometimes they don't always neatly solve a political issue by the end of the episode) but it's still the same show (lots of feel-good speechifying, and when they do solve a political issue, it's still naively optimistic and implausible). For most of the episodes, they introduced real people talking about real issues they've gone through, but it's so awkwardly placed into a fictional show that likes to put a bow tie solution onto everything, a show where a big pharma CEO will watch a video about a mother losing her son because of overpriced meds and that's all it takes for him to suddenly have a change of heart and do a 180.
They did drop the two unnecessary additions to season 2, which was good.
Also, if someone were to crunch the numbers, it's possible the Kirkman administration has been operating without a VP longer than the combined time of its two previous VPs.
I watched season one and liked it.
Unfortunately season two turned out to be pretty terrible (kind of bad wannabe copy of West Wing) so I stopped watching after few episodes. Is this third season accessible without watching the rest of season two?
The first episode of season 3 solves one thing hanging from season 2 before moving on. Also, every major character they introduced in season 2 is no longer on the show.
I'm just glad they got rid of the political advisor guy from season 2. He was terrible.
I was disappointed that Kirkman's top Secret Service guy didn't come back, he was one of my favorites, but apparently it was because of budget issues.
I couldn't vote in the poll because in my opinion it's a different show but it's still the same show. I know that sounds like a cop out, but I don't really know how else to explain it. A lot of stuff is better thought out, but a lot of stuff still isn't, and it's still a very clunky show. When it comes to politics, it's still the CliffsNotes version.
the addition of swearing didn't bother me, because it was used realistically.
I just finished season 3 [oh as I write this two more left, not quite] and I kinda logged in for the first time in ages almost in the hope that I could vent.
*MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD*
The amount of showrunners makes this car crash TV and it lurches about in tone and content. I quite enjoyed seasons 1 and 2. I liked the 24 stuff. I liked him fighting the political fights. I liked it when it turned into The Good Wife. The transitions were hard, but some of it was interesting.
Then when it was canned, I was glad... it needed to be put out of its misery. Oh, season 3... I couldn't help myself.
I'm a gay guy. I have trans friends... some of these topics are of interest to me. I value them telling them. But the trouble is... they go KITCHEN SINK. Let's throw EVERYTHING at the screen. Aids, immigration, trans rights, black rights, latino rights, opiate addiction... the lot... everything. All at once.
The thing i don't feel represented. I don't feel warm by this. I feel like my sexuality is a fucking tick box on a spreadsheet to appease Netflix. I don't feel it's a story or two woven into a narrative that may make people with other views consider things. It's pandering, it's pandering to their audience who they think want to pat themselves on the back for being 'woke' as I keep seeing in even mainstream media.
Then they basically say FUCK YOU MAGGIE Q. I mean how much can you make her look like a sub plot for the entire season then... all of a sudden, after all the melodrama of the season, oh you want to be 24 again! Let's kill off this appendix of the show.
I think I really am done with this Frankenstein monster of a show now. Season 3 is just quite frankly SHIT.
There's a chance Maggie Q wanted out. All three seasons for her has been nothing but one stupid thing after another and she barely ever interacted with any of the other regulars. Now that she's gone, I suspect there will be no more terrorism threats and it'll be West Wing-lite from here on out. Look how easily they resolved the season 3 conspiracy. Arrest random guy who they never even hinted had anything to do with it. Then he immediately turns on another guy who barely had any screen time all season. Case closed.
I'm glad I didn't give this show another chance. It sounds awful.
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