Delta Vega

[mredom]

I've seen the movie twice now, even though it's not technically released until today! I love the movie, I'll probably see it several more times before I buy it on Blu-Ray. That having been said, both times I thought "Delta Vega, isn't that the planet that they were going to maroon Gary Mitchell on in Where No Man Has Gone Before?" "That planet's at the edge of the galaxy=no where near Vulcan"

Well I was right, so we have major star chart issues now

Seriously, I now know I'm not overly obsessed because: It just doesn't bother me that much.

I read the board every day-and I don't remember reading anything about this before, but it may have already been brought up. Still-thought I'd throw it out that yes: the tradition of inconsistnecy in canon throughout the Star Trek universe is alive and well!

To everyone I say-Go see this movie-it's great fun from beginning to end.

MRE

 

[Michael]

Personally I can accept both – they are the same planet and they are different planets with the same designation. I just use my imagination. It does always work.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

"Delta Vega" is the "Springfield" of the Trek Universe.

 

[Mr. B]

I think the bigger issues with that sequence are it's proximity to Vulcan (it has to be a moon to be that close) and its survival from the black hole.

 

[Michael Chris]

Do we know if it survived?

 

[Mr. B]

Do we know if it survived?

There were several scenes there after the destruction of Vulcan.

 

[Michael Chris]

Oh, yes, I meant maybe it was destroyed after that.

 

[beneldon]

Seems to me that Delta Vega was a moon of Vulcan or perhaps a moon of Vulcan's twin planet as Spock got a "front row seat" to the destruction, according to the mind meld.

 

[seigezunt]

I think the bigger issues with that sequence are it's proximity to Vulcan (it has to be a moon to be that close) and its survival from the black hole.

I have to agree.

The name is so generic sounding, it could easily be a different planet.

 

[DeafPoet]

I can buy it being a moon. Nero dropped Spock off there so he'd have a good view and it was the nearest thing to the Enterprise when Kirk got booted off the ship.

Some are saying it's too convenient for Kirk and Spock to meet there, and it is. But if Delta Vega's a Vulcan moon it's not that ridiculous.

 

[seigezunt]

I can buy it being a moon. Nero dropped Spock off there so he'd have a good view and it was the nearest thing to the Enterprise when Kirk got booted off the ship.

Some are saying it's too convenient for Kirk and Spock to meet there, and it is. But if Delta Vega's a Vulcan moon it's not that ridiculous.

Vulcan has no moon...

 

[DeafPoet]

Does now

 

[rtc61]

I think Roberto Orci has said in interviews that the name 'Delta Vega' was tossed in as an Easter egg for Trek fans, but it was never intended to be the planet in WNMHGB. Good point about Vulcan having no moon ... on the other hand, in TMP it has something like moons hovering in the sky, so perhaps this Delta Vega is a nearby asteroid that tracks along Vulcan's orbital path but doesn't itself orbit Vulcan...?

 

[Jon1701]

Oh, yes, I meant maybe it was destroyed after that.

I doubt it. Would have been hard for Scottys sidekick to escape...

 

[miraclefan]

I think Roberto Orci has said in interviews that the name 'Delta Vega' was tossed in as an Easter egg for Trek fans, but it was never intended to be the planet in WNMHGB. Good point about Vulcan having no moon ... on the other hand, in TMP it has something like moons hovering in the sky, so perhaps this Delta Vega is a nearby asteroid that tracks along Vulcan's orbital path but doesn't itself orbit Vulcan...?

I'll buy that! plus I dont think ''Delta'' was eatin by the black hole, If I remember correctly the black holes created by the red matter are temporary. I could be wrong thou!

 

[DEWLine]

"Delta Vega" is the "Springfield" of the Trek Universe.

Works for me!

As for the system cartography...has to be close enough for direct line-of-sight to Vulcan/T'Khut's shared orbital path and not a moon itself.

At least not a moon of Vulcan. Any Jovian-like worlds established in that system?

 

[Michael]

I don't quite get why everyone supposes Spock (Nimoy) really witnessed the destruction of Vulcan with his own eyes. I mean, we only saw that in his mind meld with Kirk. As I understand it, that isn't necessarily a presentation of what Spock actually saw with his own eyes. It could very well be a mere visualization (either for Kirk or for the viewer) of how he perceived the death of Vulcan.

 

[Logical Leopard]

I don't quite get why everyone supposes Spock (Nimoy) really witnessed the destruction of Vulcan with his own eyes. I mean, we only saw that in his mind meld with Kirk. As I understand it, that isn't necessarily a presentation of what Spock actually saw with his own eyes. It could very well be a mere visualization (either for Kirk or for the viewer) of how he perceived the death of Vulcan.

I was thinking the same thing. I don't think Spock saw it with his eyes like that, but then the problem of it not being the "real" Delta Vega still exists, because whatever planet it is, it has to be close enough to jettison Kirk onto.

 

[Amaris]

I don't quite get why everyone supposes Spock (Nimoy) really witnessed the destruction of Vulcan with his own eyes. I mean, we only saw that in his mind meld with Kirk. As I understand it, that isn't necessarily a presentation of what Spock actually saw with his own eyes. It could very well be a mere visualization (either for Kirk or for the viewer) of how he perceived the death of Vulcan.

I was thinking the same thing. I don't think Spock saw it with his eyes like that, but then the problem of it not being the "real" Delta Vega still exists, because whatever planet it is, it has to be close enough to jettison Kirk onto.

Well, it becomes easier when we remember that these ships travel at warp, and how much time could have passed between the destruction of Vulcan and Kirk tossed out the airlock.

J.

 

[Kelso]

Delta Vega is the planet that is sometimes visible in the Vulcan sky (TAS, TMP).

Delta Vega II is a planet on the edge of the galaxy. It was named for the original.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.